you only need to tell me three times "not required" and I will belief you

Places that shows not required (Please note that the record of decision for this OLF is ALTERNATIVE 6, when the Navy failed to readdress Site F they locked in ALT 6. Also, at every public hearing the Navy stated Alt 6 was the choice and that only the aspects that the judge required them to address where looked at. The judge did not require the Navy to readdress the Alternative selected.)

“Construction and operation of an additional OLF is being considered if all or a majority of the Super Hornet squadrons are homebased at NAS Oceana to provide operational flexibility and to mitigate noise (ALT1, 4B and 6). An OLF is required under ALT 2, 4A, 5A or 5B wherefour or more of the Super Hornet squadrons are homebased at MCAS Cherry Point. An OLF is required if the super hornets are single-sited at MCAS Beaufort (ALT 3), and either an OLF or parrellel runway is required if the Super Hornets are dual-sited with another air station (ALT4B or 5B).”(FEIS, pg ES-3 and pg 2-73)

paras added for ease of reading, next quote was one big block.

“Although an OLF is not required to support the homebasing alternatives at NAS Oceana, the Navy is considering construction and operation of a new OLF to provide operational flexibility and to mitigate the noise impacts under ALT 1, 4B and 6, as discussed in section 2.

An additional OLF provides operational flexibility through increased availability of FCLP training periods, which is particularly important during surge operations, when two or more carrier airwings or FRSs must simultaneously prepare for carrier operations, or when one site becomes unusable due to maintenance or weather.

A second OLF increases the number of available FCLP periods earlier in the evening, thus reducing the number of late night operations at both OLFs as well as the home bases.

In addition, although NALF Fentress is and will continue to be used for FCLP by aircraft from NAS Oceana and NS Norfolk Chambers Field, training there is less than optimal because of residential growth around the airfield.

A new OLF located at any of the alternative OLF sites would provide a training environment free from residential growth.”(FEIS, pg 12-1)

Notice how the Navy never ever says this OLF "is required to support" for Alternative 6... of the 1582 pages of the FEIS these are the only places (well the 50+ times when the Navy answers public hearing questions that NALF Fentress can do the job but then restates above using similar words) where it states not required. The rest of the document as well as the DSEIS is trying to justify why we of North Carolina should allow the Navy to place this unwanted and unrequired facility in our state.

The Navy just states we want it for operational flex bla bla bla. The reference to multiple carriers sorting with an FRS is connected to the FRP which the SEIS is stressing is important. The FRP was acknowledged within the FEIS and they still made these three not required statements.

Here is proof that the "no action" option spelled out in the SEIS is a valid option and goes all the way back to the DEIS when Alternative 6 had an OLF or no OLF option. (BTW, it still does have that option regardless of what the Navy is stating).

Of the second block quote. Every Thursday there is an 8 hour maintenance window and Fentress, so maintenance should not be a problem for the site. plus for the time the airstrip is down, Oceana can perform those FCLP operations.

Bad weather at Fentress is bad weather at Oceana. The pilots will have to take off and land from Oceana in this weather that stops them from flying FCLP missions at Fentress. This is not a valid concern. They have been properly training pilots in this weather since the mid 1950s, come up with another answer.

More FCLP operations allows the pilots to come home early? These guys are in an organization that is 24/7. The capacity at the Navy facilities is enough to perform the required missions, this is just a management problem. The Navy has a management problem and not a capacity problem, again, not North Carolina's problem.

Here is the real kicker,

In addition, although NALF Fentress is and will continue to be used for FCLP by aircraft from NAS Oceana and NS Norfolk Chambers Field, training there is less than optimal because of residential growth around the airfield.

training at Fentress and Oceana are bad, so lets go to North Carolina! But we are still going to train at Fentress anyways. Duhhhhhhhhhh? This I dont get. Take the $300 million and fix your problem you identified as far back as 2003 or when ever you made this statement up.

This was a military value criteria item for the 2005 BRAC yet Oceana was not presented to BRAC for inclusion for consideration to realign or close this base. When you tie in what the Navy did with 2005 BRAC by failing to identify this base as wanting in its primary military mission due to encroachment it makes anything stated in any of these NEPA documents questionable.

A new OLF located at any of the alternative OLF sites would provide a training environment free from residential growth.

I am sorry Navy, but with 68,000 operations at Oceana, 56,000 at Fentress and 31,000 at the new OLF, this statement is just wrong. Only at the new OLF is this statement true. This represents only 20% of all the FCLP operations needed being done correctly. That is a terrible track record Navy. $300 million to correct 20% of your problem. Destroying a region, holding hostage all of NE North Carolina for this length of time, forcing the state of North Carolina to come up with a plan to fix the Navy's inability to manage Oceana and Fentress is just wrong.

Sorry it was so long again.

Comments

Long but quite impressive

I hope you are flooding the in-boxes of WUNC, local newspapers and our state legislators. It's hard to ignore the navy's "mis-truths" when you present the facts!

another great post!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

to be honest with you

I dont really do that. I dont know who my bubbas are. So mostly this stuff just goes here. I dont expect them to care. I probably need to rethink that, just have not really seen politicians properly concerned.

I guess you get what you expect. If I expect them to do something about this, then they just might.

What is WUNC?

Seems like the local paper LTE only allow 1 write up every 6 months and most of my stuff is to lengthy thus it would get buthcered down losing the effect.

The few times I have gotten letters back from folks, they think I am opposed to site C and fail to acknowledge that I am opposed to this thing anywhere.

:)

I dont know who my bubbas are.

I just love you. You never fail to make me smile.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



***************************
Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Yes, P.

This is an excellent summary of the underlying issues. Please send to Jack Betts at the Charlotte Observer. That's the best place for this. I think he'll take the time to understand it . . . and he'll call you if he doesn't.

jbetts@charlotteobserver.com

Parmea

The only way to get them to care is to bug the hell out of them. They have so much stuff coming at them from so many different directions, that you can't assume that they're going to get this just because you do!

You've got great arguments, and you know your stuff. If you want to send it to your representatives, we can help you figure out who your bubbas are. And really - Gov. Easley is one of your guys, Sen. Dole and Burr, they should get this, too.

For the record, the best line of the whole piece is:

The Navy has a management problem and not a capacity problem, again, not North Carolina's problem.

Fantastic job!

_____________
The Den
"My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

WUNC is our local public radio station (NPR)

you should get aquainted with your local papers and present them with your articles. They are so well researched that the information is very hard to ignore. Sometimes the papers will let you write as a "guest contributor". Also look around, are there any local newspapers with blogs? Most start-up blog sections in newspapers don't have enough contributors and you could enter your articles there. Maybe even get your own blog.

Here is a link to the NC General Assembly's home page. Notice the buttons on the left. Click on "House" or "Senate" to find those who represent your area and the surrounding areas. Bookmark their e-addy and use it often. The information you have gathered is probably more than their own staff has gathered and will be valuable to them while they make up their minds and form their opinions.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

you would think...

..."dark of the night" (as opposed to early evening) and bad weather would be plusses for an olf, yet the navy's comments imply this is a bad thing.

train for what you have to fly, and all that...

"...i feel that if a person can't communicate, the very least he can do is to shut up." --tom lehrer, january 1965