Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Vandals sprayed anti-war graffiti and profanity Wednesday on buildings used by military reservists at two North Carolina universities.

Winston-Salem Journal | Anti-war graffiti sprayed on UNC-CH and N.C. State buildings. Dear celestialbeing: our Republic is quite a ways from the point where the only avenue open for dissent is vandalism. Write letters, call officials, and join or organize a movement. Don't take it out on the men and women who work in these buildings; don't take it out on the men and women who will will clean up your mess. Nobody—nobody—will read about your act and think "gosh, maybe he's right!" That's the nature of thuggery—it discredits its own message. I'm sure you can think of some illustrative examples involving current White House occupants.


I disagree

Is life more valuable than property?

The stakes are high and the institutions that are supposed to protect democracy (like legal dissent and independent media) are on life support.

I'm not saying we should all go out and start fucking shit up (yet), but think this was the kind of desperate act that befits these VERY desparate times.


I don't question that life is more valuable than property; I just don't think these vandals did anything to save a life. For the time and money celestialbeing spent on this project s/he could have written letters or volunteered with a group that works though education.

Even if the spray-painting is exactly as effective (or even slightly more effective) than other message-spreading means, it's a worse choice for foisting most of the cost of the project onto the state—us—that had to clean up the mess.

But at the heart of my complaint is this unverifiable belief: acts like this do more harm than good.

Your opinion is not mine

While of course this act does a lot of harm in some ways, I'd argue it can do a good as well by spreading a message to folks who might not otherwise be exposed to it, and it also accurately expresses the desperation that so many of us feel right now.

When you say Nobody will read about your act and think "gosh, maybe he's right!" Well, you're simply incorrect, Lance. My partner and I both heard about it and immediately thought "Right on."

I can get why you don't like it and are disappointed by the act, but there are a lot more ways to look at the world that are just as valid as yours.

Fair enough

there are a lot more ways to look at the world that are just as valid as yours.

It's true; that's why I highlighted my "unverifiable belief." But my voice is only really handy when combined with my beliefs.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that you already agreed with the sentiments painted on the campus walls. I was talking about the middle "convincables." I didn't make this terribly clear, I guess (that's what I was going for with the "gosh, maybe...").

Anyway, I'm okay with our disagreement. I wish celestialbeing could stop by and defend the vandalism.

Oh man.

I was going to comment on the guy that tagged Air Force One. But it's bogus.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.


I'll grant that this is certainly not the most effective method for convincing fence-sitters to oppose the war. But there are other legitimate, important purposes for political speech.

I dedicate This to Lance,Robert & Anglico, They can understand!

It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the soldier,not the poet who has given us freedom of speech,

It is the soldier, not the campus organizer who has given us the freedom to demonstrate,

It is the soldier,not the lawyer ,who has given us the right to a free trial,

It is the soldier who salutes the flag,serves under the flag,and whose coffin is drapped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag

and to desicrate buildings