Wingnuts Against Torture Before they Were For it

Earlier this week I was researching Robin Hayes and ran across the transcript of a meeting of the House of Representatives, Subcommittee on International Operations and Human Rights, Committee on International Relations. The transcript was actually for a hearing on U.S. policy toward victims of torture and it is from 1999.

A little more wingnut madness on the flip side...

To make what could be a very long story short, I will skip the part about Republicans being against torture before they were for it (another post, another day) and I'll get right to the part where Chris Smith, (R-NJ) invokes the name of our Lord.

Wait, first let me just say that he opens by criticizing then President Clinton for not doing enough to implement/fund the anti-torture legislation the the oh-so-humane Republicans have passed in congress. He then outlines all the horrors of torture around the world. It really is easy reading and you only need to read the first part.

Smith then announces new legislation.

I am proud to announce that today I introduced H.R. 2367 along with Tom Lantos, Mr. Gilman, and my Ranking Member on this Subcommittee, Ms. McKinney, the Torture Victims Relief Act Reauthorization Act. This bill will extend and increase the authorization of last year's act to Fiscal Year 2003.

Hmmmm, 2003? I'm thinking we need to check up on this and see how the Republicans are doing funding this, especially now that we have joined the list of those torturing our victims.

After announcing his new legislation, Smith turns to his Lord.

Finally, just let me say that I believe the basis for sound political policy can be found in the Gospel of Matthew where our Lord said that whatever you do to the least of our brethren, you do to him. It seems to me that when people have been tortured, have been suffered the most cruelest of indignities, and have suffered so immensely, the least we can do is provide for those individuals through the kind of legislation that we have passed in the past and to provide the help through the treatment centers.

Smith invokes the name of the Lord Jesus saying he would want us to take care of torture victims. I sure would like to know what Jesus would think about us turning into the torturers. I'm sure Representative Smith has an answer for us. But I wonder if he can find a passage in the Bible that supports his position?

If I lived in New Jersey I would be turning this quote back on Smith every chance I got. I do think this is going to provide some fodder over the next couple of years as we seek regime change here at home.

Let's add this one to the ammunition pile.


Transcripts of past meetings can be

such an eye opener. I'm planning to research any meetings that Hayes, Myrick, McHenry etc have been a part of to see if they provide any ammunition.!

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You're amazing

I was reading yesterday about Khaled El-Masri, who we abused most grievously for no particularly good reason. Mistakes happen, but it doesn't look like this administration has any problem denying them when they do.

This may not be a major topic in 2008

But it will be one where we can pin the Conservative Christian Republicans to the wall. They say that Jesus doesn't condone torture, so why are they going against their Lord?

This will be one of those arguments that can chip away at the solidarity of the traditional conservatives and the religious right. The divide is there...all we need is to jam all the little wedges in and then hammer away.

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Hehehe...not really

You're too kind, really. *G* Just finally finding time to read all this stuff since the girls are older. I even read transcripts of city council meetings. I really am pretty boring, I guess.

And with that....I have to go clean the garage...oh joy!

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Is SD headed to a speed reading law school to get Robin?

I even read transcripts of city council meetings. I really am pretty boring, I guess.* SD

If you were Gedding lawyer, [ Jim Black's one day lottary
boss]you would find him not very
bore reading a federal 42 page indictement against his

No to speed reading

and no to law school. I do read indictments and plea agreements as well. I don't know why.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Lance, you've teased me about being old fashioned before

I'm going to fess up and admit I get the print editions of magazines. Isn't that awful. All those poor trees.

I hadn't seen that. I get so many magazines now I can't finish them all. Maybe I need to stop reading so many transcripts.

I read an in-depth piece about El-Masri somewhere a while back. I can't remember where I read it, but it was horrifying. This is the country Republicans have created. I want my country back.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.