Win My Vote

Even though he is not running any more, as of right now I am still voting for John Edwards. In fact, as of right now, I will be working hard to turn out enough Democratic votes to make up for the fact that I will be writing his name in during the general election.

So, Hillary and Obama supporters, win me over.

I have supported John because he has never taken money from PACs and Lobbyists.
I have supported John because he talks about unions, both in front of union audiences, and in front of audiences with zero union members.
I have supported John because he is the first presidential candidate since RFK to say "We can end poverty" and be taken seriously.
I have supported John because he has quit using the phrase "Global War on Terror".
I have supported John because we must win in November.
I have supported John because I am tired of Democratic Presidential candidates telling me that my vote and voice doesnt matter, because I live in the south.
I have supported John because we must have Universal Health Care.

So, show me what you have.

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You're brave

I'm not ready to hear any of their crap yet.

Katie is so angry. She doesns't like Obama or Clinton at all and won't even read up on them. Of course, she's only 14.....



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

eh

Thanks to the media I havent heard much besides their crap for 9 months. Why not listen to them a little?

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

Won't be hearing any crap from me.

I learned my lesson. The moment I talked about anyone else but Edwards I almost always got stuff thrown at my head. Today I even got called "shit for brains" on here for even mentioning anyone else but Edwards. You would think I just killed someone.
I live in a very republican county and live and breath local politics on a daily basis.
In the 4 years I've been doing that I've never been treated worse than on here.
You can call me a whiner now, pussy, can't handle it, whatever, but it's the truth.

You're smart. Make up your own mind.

If you need any help figuring out who to vote for in the 8th District Congressional race, holler.

You seem to be a rather sensible person

Please don't let anyone take your voice, even for a moment.

And though you are right to be offended, you might cut the Edwards supporters some slack; that kicked in the gut feeling isn't at all fun.

Cheers.

Person County Democrats

I actively oppose gerrymandering. Do you?

Well

My car still has my Larry Kissell bumper sticker on it. So I dont think you would have much work to do on that.

But I was trying to give you free reign to explain why Obama is more able to carry on John's cause in this race.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

I'll bite for a minute.

I'm kinda worn out from this day and I'm hoping to come back from Chicago plenty energized and inspired after visiting Obama's national HQ and the neighborhoods he worked in as a community organizer, but I'll answer your question very briefly with the words of your own guy, John Edwards.
In the beginning of January we had the Democratic debate in NH.
During that debate, Edwards came to Obama's defense after Clinton talked about Obama's evolving positions on universal health care and mandates since he was a state senator in Illinois.

Edwards, blocking for Obama said, "Any time you speak out powerfully for change, the forces of status quo attack. That's exactly what happens."

So there you have it, according to Edwards (and me), the choice is simple: you vote for the power of change or the forces of status quo.

Good night.

works for me, T.

Have a wonderful trip to Chicago - stay warm and safe.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Well I already

Well I already pledged to not vote for a candidate who was currently taking PAC contributions. So its either Obama or stick with Edwards or break my pledge I guess.

Good point on change v status quo.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

I Might Add

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

donations from lobbyists

Saying, like Hillary does, that contributions from lobbyists don't influence your decisions is of course insane.
If it didn't have any influence, why would they give so much money to your campaign in the first place? Do they just like to throw money around?

I didn't say anything on the other thread, but

In the 4 years I've been doing that I've never been treated worse than on here.

I found some of your comments very inappropriate and irritating. Especially the "Edwards out, Nader in" one, which made it appear that you were equating the two.

Stan did go overboard in his comments towards you, but that doesn't change the fact that you were dancing at a funeral.

Word.

You summed it up well. Especially the "dancing at a funeral" part.

funeral?

That's exactly what totally blew me away yesterday, you'd think John Edwards had died.
John is very much alive, still very much a politician and still very much at the forefront of politics. He's still playing a big role in the election and I'm sure you will see him again soon.

So what irritated me, was the totally overblown reaction to me just posting news that I saw, that I thought people on here would not catch unless I posted it. There was no hidden agenda, folks who know me know I never have one.

Wrong time? Apparently so. From some of the reactions you'd think I had just shot Edwards in the face. Insensitive? That's in the eye of the beholder. I didn't think so, because I wasn't saying anything bad about Edwards at all, THAT would be dancing on somebody's funeral. I can understand the frustration, but it was aimed at the entirely wrong person.

If Obama quits the race I'd be very sad but it won't be like one of my family members had just passed away and I won't be calling anyone some really nasty names, especially if that person doesn't have anything to do with my candidate quitting.
I thought all reason and perspective was lost yesterday. Yes it was really sad, but a funeral? come on...

The lesson I learned is that I obviously have to think twice now to see if anything I write can be taken in the totally wrong way. Like that Nader thing, the thought of me posting on here that Nader was looking into running being somehow misconstrued to me equating Edwards and Nader didn't even enter my mind.

Of course now you'll probably just think I'm still irritating for voicing my feelings on this, but so be it. Maybe I really do have shit for brains.

You still don't get it.

Wrong time? Apparently so. From some of the reactions you'd think I had just shot Edwards in the face. Insensitive? That's in the eye of the beholder. I didn't think so, because I wasn't saying anything bad about Edwards at all, THAT would be dancing on somebody's funeral.

You don't have to say something outright negative about somebody to be insulting. If someone begins to confide in you about an illness they are suffering from and then you change the subject to a problem you're having, it's an insult. You didn't have to say anything bad about them—just changing the subject is kind of a slap in the face.

I know that's not what you were trying to do on the Edwards thread, but it sort of tasted like that.

If Obama quits the race I'd be very sad but it won't be like one of my family members had just passed away and I won't be calling anyone some really nasty names, especially if that person doesn't have anything to do with my candidate quitting.

You can speculate that you wouldn't be that sensitive, but you don't really know, do you? I mean, you may not be the kind of person who lashes out, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't be offended if the roles were reversed.

You've put quite a bit of personal effort into Obama's campaign, and are really excited about it. If he dropped out of the race, you'd probably be a space cadet for a couple of days. If someone immediately walked up to you and started pushing Edwards on you, you'd probably say, "Please give me a little time to adjust, okay?"

emotions

If someone immediately walked up to you and started pushing Edwards on you, you'd probably say, "Please give me a little time to adjust, okay?"

Yes, I'd say that. But that's a far cry from what actually happened. What happened was the equivalent of me being pummeled with a pile of feces, and that I wouldn't do.
I think the conclusion of all of this can be that there's a nobel prize waiting for someone who can invent a way of accurately conveying emotions and intentions through the internet.

"a way of accurately conveying emotions and intentions..."

How about these complete posts, from some of the more verbose Edwards supporters:

I have no words.

No one in the office knew about this as of last night. I'm stunned.

Awful.

Absolutely crushed.

Pissed.

Really, really pissed.

God Bless John Edwards

I am so sad...

...to see this happen.

I don't think you meant to be insensitive, but there are three things:

1. After 10 years of support, it's over. No one who has been supporting a candidate for 8 or 9 months can understand that.

2. It wasn't really your fault, the Carolina Politics guy came on as an asshole and raised everyone's hackles.

3. It was really no place to boast that Jimmy Carter, a Southerner, would be coming out endorsing Obama. That was tactless.

Other than #3, I don't think you deserved the vitriol, but I do understand where it was coming from. Your comments show that the depth of feeling you have for your candidate just isn't the same as what we feel. It is why all the diaries and comments across the internet from Obama supporters telling Edwards supporters to jump ship have been met with silence.

But, the race is over, it's time to put this behind us. I won't be supporting Obama, but neither will I be supporting Clinton. I'll vote for whomever the party chooses and I'll be ignoring everything national as much as possible. If obama wins I know you will be working to GOTV, which helps all Democrats, so I'm happy knowing that.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I've been through all of this too many times

When Erskine lost, it was worse for me than Kerry losing.
When the school board candidate I was helping in 2005 lost, God thought it would be funny for my Great Grandmother to die on the same day. And the bonds lost as well.
When I lost, everybody was surprised that I came so close, but I really thought I was going to win (it was Bob Dylan's fault). Didn't make it easier.
When Kissell lost, it was painful for the three weeks we worked on that runoff. It's terrible when losses drag on like that.
I actually won once, when we beat that repeal 70-30%.
Then Biden lost, and it was by more than anyone thought. I was prepared for a loss - we knew Obama had the magic 200K turnout - but not for that.

However, you have to suck it up each time and go on. "There are other ways to add to the family woodpile" as Erskine said at his concession speech. "'Get Up.'" Is what Biden said, quoting his dad. Larry got back up and started running again.

So I got up, I took a new job, and I'm still going to have a voice in the presidential race by running as a District or PLEO delegate to the DNC. I want to represent all of us that were disappointed this year.

As for you, I don't have anyone to lobby for, so I just ask that on May 6th you make the choice that you need to make to help our country the most.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks