This Week With Barack Obama, March 16-22, 2008

cross-posted @ This Week With Barack Obama & One Million Strong


obama endorsed by gov. bill richardson in portland, or

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obama links effects of war costs to fragility in the economy

Voting Registration Deadlines for the Following States

Pennsylvania: Deadline March 24th. Form must be received on Monday, March 24th to your local county office, here is the form and a list of county offices to drop your form off.

Indiana: Deadline April 7th. Form must received on or by April 7th to your county office. All mailing information and form with addresses to your county office is available here.

North Carolina: Deadline April 11th. Form must be received on or by April 11th. Download form in English, here. Download form in Spanish, here. Registration form must be postmarked, faxed or hand delivered to your county office by April 11th. Here is the list of county offices to mail or hand deliver your registration form to here.

Kentucky: Deadline April 21st. All registration forms should be submitted to your county and received by April 21st. Download registration form here. List of counties to mail form here.

West Virginia: Deadline April 22nd. All registration forms must be submitted on and received by April 22nd. Download the registration form here. Forms must be mailed or hand delivered to your local county office, list of county offices here.

Oregon: Deadline April 29th. Registration form must be received by April 29th, the downloadable form and where to mail to your county is available here.

Montana: Deadline May 5th. Registration form must be received by May 5th. Registration form and your county address is available here. Additional information is here.

South Dakota: Deadline May 19th. Downloadable form here. Fill out the form on-line, print and send here. List of counties to mail your form is here.

Sunday's News
Obama to Clinton: Your Turn
As Campaign Drags On, Aides Put Lives on Hold


michelle obama, valerie jarrett and marty nesbitt awaiting obama's speech on race

Democratic superdelegates hope the end is near

Lacking a clear road to a Democratic presidential nominee, the party's uncommitted superdelegates say they are getting more concerned about the risks of a prolonged fight between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama and don't know how to solve the problem.

Interviews with dozens of undecided superdelegates – the elected officials and party leaders who could hold the balance of power for the nomination – found them uncertain about who, if anyone, would step in and help guide the contest to an end that would not weaken the Democratic ticket in the general election.

While many superdelegates said they intended to keep their options open as the race continued over the next three months, the interviews suggested that the playing field was tilting slightly toward Mr. Obama in one respect. Many of them said that in deciding whom to support, they would look to the essential principle advocated by Mr. Obama: reflecting the will of the voters. continue


Barack Obama delivering "A More Perfect Union"

On Tuesday, March 18, 2008, Barack Obama gave a speech titled, ”A More Perfect Union.”

This speech was brought on by the repeated questions about the snippets of Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s past sermons at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois. Anyone who is not familiar with the church or pastor does have valid questions if you only saw the snippets of prior speeches.

I always knew that Barack Obama would have to give a race speech. I also knew that he was the only one qualified to address the issues on sides, black and white, being bi-racial and living in both worlds.

It was an honest, real and stellar speech, one that will be remembered for many years to come. But politically what does it mean? Well, a number of things. It means the 527s of the GOP are salivating at the mouth to make the general election about race and not about the failed presidency of George W. Bush. It also means that we, as Americans have a choice. To continue to get caught up in wedge issues and fall for the race baiting or to reject it and elect a leader who can heal the divide in this country.

I am not afraid of the 527s or their race baiting to come. Why? Because they are pidgeoned holed. They cannot see outside a racial context that is larger than this. People are losing their homes, right now, on the streets. People are losing and have lost jobs due to the weak trade agreements in this country, these jobs will never come back. Many are not getting raises, have not in months or years, but inflation and the cost of everything does not go down but up. Utility prices are astronomical right now; there are millions of Americans without heat, lights because they cannot afford it. The infrastructure in this country is collapsing daily, as we saw with the Minneapolis Bridge fiasco. And no one could explain how a bridge that was granted safe suddenly collapsed. We are complicit, as a country, to continue to provide corporate welfare to the same companies that do not care about Americans and their jobs, case and point, bailing out Bear Stearns. College is becoming unaffordable for many in this country. For the young, if your parents do not have the means, rich many are left without a chance to further their education. Healthcare in this country is becoming so expensive that it is becoming a class divide of rich and poor. The Iraq War is the elephant in the room, the largest one sucking all the oxygen and money from this country. We are in a war that is bankrupting our very existence as a country, yet this president is stubborn, ignorant and too in bed with his cronies to care for the good of the country. Lastly, we have a government that is dysfunctional, hardened by partisan hirings and tactics, mired with hardness in congress and has not worked for the good of the country in many years.

All listed above is what the Republicans must defend. And right now, show me a path as to how they can. We can be afraid all we want, but I am not. Reverend Jeremiah Wright represents a generational divide in this country that is not representative of many Americans, black, white, asian and hispanic. I am not going to blame Barack Obama for words his pastor said; he is not responsible for that. If so, we need to start digging up the sermons of McCain’s minister and surrogates, Hillary Clinton’s pastorate problem and her surrogates.

In the end, if all the GOP has is a race baiting tactic, they will come off looking as the party of hate, bigotry, anger, bitterness and racists. If that is the image, which will be broadcast worldwide, that they want to show, go ahead. This campaign is not just being watched by local eyes, but worldwide eyes. This is the country that does not tolerate all I wrote above, but have allowed the GOP to divide and separate this country as no one else has.

If you are tired of the entire above, no need to worry, because there are in the tens of millions who are tired of this too.

video of "a perfect union"

Democrats risk losing a generation

If -- and it's still an if -- the numbers just don't add up for U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic presidential nominee, but the party, through its arcane rules and superdelegates process, gives it to her anyway, Democrats will pay dearly, for a generation or more.

Instead of re-establishing themselves as the party in power for perhaps the next 20 years, Democrats could be effectively handing the White House to Republican John McCain and alienating up to 30 million young voters who have gotten engaged in politics this year for the first time because of Barack Obama. If these voters feel that Obama has been cheated out of a chance to run for president, they and the hordes more of them becoming eligible to vote in the years ahead, will not easily return to the Democratic fold. Even if they like the party's principles, they will distrust its processes.

In this scenario, Clinton mitigates the damage only somewhat by choosing Obama as her vice presidential candidate -- a role he has said he doesn't want anyway.

More likely, young voters sit out the election (as they have in the past) and McCain wins and Democrats dissolve again into their bickering, finger-pointing ways while an emerging generation that desperately wants to see a stronger, safer and better America backs out of the political system. continue

The Blueprint for Change
What Obama Means
Obama Gains 14 More Delegates
In the Clinton-Obama Race, It's the Pollster vs. the Ad Man
Clinton, Obama backers tone down rhetoric

"the world beyond iraq"

Obama’s Speech on Race Played Well, a Poll Finds

A national poll released Friday showed that voters who had heard or read about Senator Barack Obama’s speech this week on race relations and on his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. broadly approved of it.

Seven in 10 said Mr. Obama, Democrat of Illinois, did a good job talking about race relations, and as many said he did a good job explaining his relationship with Mr. Wright, according to the CBS News poll.

More than 6 in 10 said they mostly agreed with what he said about race relations in the United States, including a broad majority of Democrats and independents. A national poll released Friday showed that voters who had heard or read about Senator Barack Obama’s speech this week on race relations and on his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. broadly approved of it.

Seven in 10 said Mr. Obama, Democrat of Illinois, did a good job talking about race relations, and as many said he did a good job explaining his relationship with Mr. Wright, according to the CBS News poll.

More than 6 in 10 said they mostly agreed with what he said about race relations in the United States, including a broad majority of Democrats and independents. continue

Three new Obama ads in Pennsylvania
The Obamathon (2.0) Begins by Populista
Rifling Obama's passport file by smintheus
Barack Obama Needs You. NOW. by kath25


obama at american dream pizza in corvallis, or

must reads:

Let's Face It....by wmtriallawyer; Obama brought me to tears by RFK Lives; Obama's ripple effect working by chiri; The Pros and Cons of the Fed's Action Last Week by bonddad; White House" Computer hard drives tossed The Baculum King; Media Drip: The Way this Ends by BooMan23; Media Narrative and Hard Financial Facts Turning Against Clinton by DHinMI; Obama's Promise--And Its Limits by teacherken; Carville: "Richardson a Judas" by CKDexterHaven; Murder By Spreadsheet: Amputees have it it real bad by nyceve; Pat Buchanan: Slavery Best Thing to Happen to Blacks by D Wreck; Overheard on the bus by dmsilev; Is Hillary Positioning for 20112? by Cenk Uygur; Obama Encounter in Salem, OR: Wow! by mamabigdog; My last Black Kos week in review diary by dopper0189; Hillary in Tuzla: The Tale of Bosnian Sniper Fire (TRAILER) by JedReport

The accent of Barack Obama, Mr. Charisma
Race, Reconcilation & American Unity: Barack Obama Speaks by Maureen
Ultimate Delegate Math by Chris Bowers
Not This Time by TocqueDeville

governor bill richardson, (d-nm) endorses obama

UFCW Local 1776 Endorses Obama
The Obama Bargain
Bill and Hillary Clinton and the 22nd Amendment by kid oakland
Discovering Obama


obama in medford, or townhall meeting

Obama Statement Congratulating Taiwanese President-Elect Ma Ying-Jeou

On March 22, the people of Taiwan went to the polls for the fourth time in 12 years to elect their President. I offer my congratulations to President-elect Ma for his victory, and best wishes for his presidency.

The people of Taiwan deserve our respect and admiration for this free and fair election, which is just the latest step in consolidating a democracy that has advanced over the last two decades. I hope the People’s Republic of China responds to this election in a positive, constructive, and forward-leaning way. It is important for Beijing to demonstrate to the people of Taiwan that the practical and non-confrontational approach that President-elect Ma promises to take toward the Mainland will be met with good faith and progress. The PRC should reduce the military threat to Taiwan by drawing back the missiles it has deployed in southeast China and by other security confidence-building measures. And on issues such as Taiwan’s observer status in the World Health Organization, where the health of all Chinese people is at stake, it should allow Taiwan greater international space.

The United States should respond to Ma Ying-jeou’s election by rebuilding a relationship of trust and support for Taiwan’s democracy. The U.S. should reopen blocked channels of communication with Taiwan officials. We should continue to provide the arms necessary for Taiwan to deter possible aggression. And we should encourage both Taipei and Beijing to build commercial, cultural, and other ties, laying the groundwork for a closer relationship and ultimately movement toward resolution of their differences. We should maintain our “one China” policy, our adherence to the three U.S.-PRC Joint Communiques concerning Taiwan, and observance of the Taiwan Relations Act, which lays out the legal basis for our relationship.

March 22nd was a good day for the people of Taiwan, for the forces of democracy around the world, and for peace and stability in the western Pacific. I will do all that I can to support Taiwan’s democracy in the years ahead. Link

Blues for Obama
Obama: Trust Me to End the War
Obama criticizes his rivals on Iraq
A Thinking Man's Speech
Obama invites Pennsylvanians to join the party
Condoleeza Rice apologizes for passport breach
The Real Value of Obama's Speech


Michelle Obama and Marti Nesbitt, listening to Senator Barack Obama's speech in Philadelphia.

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icebergslim’s last word: the fat lady’s aria is completed

Time is up for Hillary Clinton, now it is about how she will leave this race. Will she leave with anger and rancor or will she exit with style and grace. This is something she must face.

Let’s face it. The Wright story was pushed by the Clinton’s they never disavowed that, in fact in a press conference Hillary Clinton was asked pointedly and she skipped answering the question. What was supposed to happen by pushing this story is the demise and fall of Barack Obama. It did not happen. In fact he turned this bad situation into an opportunity to talk candidly about race in America. He addressed it from both sides, by being a bi-racial man in America.

He gave a stellar speech, one to go down in history. He walked away tougher and grittier than before. Hillary Clinton limped back to her war room in angst and now has to face and wonder how to get out of this race.

No one can state that the Clintons did not weigh in their damage, from the Billy Shaheen snafu to just a few days ago Bill Clinton questioning Obama’s patriotism. Folks, the fat lady have completed her aria and it is TIME for the Clinton’s to leave the stage, exit right, please. Why leave? A few things, Michigan and Florida are history, no revoting for them, it is done. Hillary Clinton’s money advantage is null and void. There is no advantage, she is in debt and had only 3 million in the bank end of February compared to Obama’s 30 million. The Reverend Jeremiah Wright story was a hit for Obama in the polls, but his speech stopped the bleeding and he is now leading, again. Governor Bill Richardson not only endorsed Obama but came out publicly in stating he has the most delegates, the fighting need to stop and the party need to come together. Believe me, those are words Clinton did not want to hear. This is the opening of the doors to the train folks, all those superdelegates will be making announcements for Obama from now until Pennsylvania.

I know for many Clinton supporters this is something that no one wants to address or come to realization to, but it is the fact. Now we are waiting to see how Clinton leaves, with dignity and legacy intact, or as one who must be forced from the stage and will never be considered for a major political job in the Democratic Party, again.

The choice is up to her.

Time to donate to the only people powered, energetic, motivated campaign around. Donate to the The Obama Campaign.


see barack making his ncaa picks above? have you made yours? anyway this was a tough week that ended up being a brilliant week. the train is moving and watch many start to get on board. we have much work still to do, including phone banking, canvassing, etc. everything you need to know is right here in kath25's diary. always remember the premise of barack's campaign is to bring us together, not divide us or tear us apart. what happened these past few weeks will not only make barack a better candidate, but for us stronger supporters. ok, always remember to focus on obama, but not the drama...

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This Week With Barack Obama

Comments

What are the chances you show up to respond to comments....

unlike the last couple times?

Post-and-run, bad form.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

@$%&*!

Is that NC Primary getting close or something?

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Good Grief

I feel as if someone just ran through my living room, slapping posters up on the walls and leaving position papers on the sofa. The "post and run" must be the close cousin of the telemarketing call at dinner time.

Whether it is the post and run or the fly-by, the campaigns need to learn how to use these forums to engage. There are plenty of Obama supporters that are part of the BlueNC community that will gladly engage people in a meaningful way on behalf of Obama. Similarly, there are plenty of Clinton supporters that are part of this community that will do the same on her behalf. Don't turn our community into a dumping ground.

I second that ~!@#$%^&*

Yeah, I got the first of what I assume will be LOTS of freakin' robo-calls this afternoon.

The thing is, I don't think that these kind of blog posts actually get read. That is, I haven't read the post I'm "responding" to; I just scanned the dang thing and got irritated by its length -- just as one would an over-long phone message.

Dome is also getting hit with a slew of new posters - same story.

It's already boring and it's just begun!

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Get used to it...this is typically the way the Obama supporters

work...they absolutely swarm the blogs to the point that you cannot get a word in edgewise and when you do they will start yelling, kicking and screaming at you about why you are totally wrong, your candidate is a liar, personal attacks, etc....and by the way, this post is not meant as flame bait..it is simply my personal perception as I peruse the various democratic blogs...just wait and see....n/t

Silence is Betrayal...an Edwards Democrat.

Silence is Betrayal

Whattabuncha horsesh*t

Oh PULEASE. As if there's some qualitative difference between the people who are passionate about one candidate over the other. Take your "this is the OBAMA style" and shove it, buddy. The Hillary supporters are just as passionate and just as likely to irritate as the Obama supporters, and your chiming in here with the, "oh yeah, those *other* guys sure are awful!" is just a wee too precious.

UGH. We're supposed to believe you're just a disinterested party (who I haven't seen here before) who happens to have this opinion JUST of the Obama supporters? Give me a freakin' break and go to hypocrite hell.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Just because you haven't seen T-Rod here before

doesn't mean that T-Rod hasn't been a member for one year and 18 weeks. I've seen T-Rod around. I guess you've been too busy coming up with your snappy new sarcastic comebacks to notice T-Rod or to check her account. Maybe if you did you would see that she was 1st VC of the 3rd CD back in 2007. So, she's at least someone who is involved in the Democratic Party in our lovely state and maybe if we didn't tell her to go to hell she might feel more inclined to speak up more often.

Actually, T-Rod never said that the Hillary backers didn't act the same way. She simply spoke to what the Obama camp was doing. T-Rod's comments are very accurate, especially if you make the round of state and national blogs that many of us make. The Hillary camp does the same thing, but did T-Rod say anywhere that the Hillary camp did not act that way? Nope. Actually, at one time or another all of the campaign groupies have acted in that way.



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oh all right (mutter mutter)

Good points, all, Betsy.

I'm sorry, T-Rod. I should'na jumped on you like that.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Dang you're easy

....now......I'll give you a prize if you can guess how many times I deleted cuss words before posting that comment. I am trying. I am really, really trying.

However, the spokesperson for the NRCC has shown her head on another thread if you really need to get out frustrations. She's stepped on our turf and dumped a load on a good Democrat. She's fair game. :D



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Where? Where? Lemme at 'er!

Yeah, I was in a bad mood. It's never a good idea to post when you're grumpy before you even open the blog page. I'd spent way too much time cleaning and would like to say that I inhaled too many "Scrubbing Bubbles" -- or something like that.

Or perhaps it's pollen?

T-Rod, I'm sorry I was such a jerk and hope you'll give me a chance to redeem myself in later, more thoughtful commentary.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Hahahahaha

It was the Scrubbing Bubbles......I feel the same way after cleaning. I'm much happier after messing up.

It's on this thread. Oh, and I confirmed she signed up with an NRCC.org email addy, so not an impostor that I can tell.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Well, since you did only mention Obama supporters

and you are accurate in your observation, I do need to point out that Edwards supporters (I belong in this group) and Clinton supporters have these same tendencies. It really gets ugly. I've noticed it from every camp and I'm ready for it to all be over.



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::nod:: I'm an Obama supporter, now.

I will vote for him because Edwards is no longer in the race. But - I unsubscribed from the Obama listservs, especially the local county one, because they pretty much made it clear they weren't interested in having the local party leaders (I'm one) involved. I might have been mistaken, but it seemed like they were intent on reinventing the wheel.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Yikes....that's not good

North Carolina is new territory for presidential campaigns. We've worked so hard over the past two years to do some grassroots organizing. They should take advantage of our hard work. It is why we did it, right? I remember two years ago talking about having everything in place for 2008. Oh well, we have enough going on in this state that our hard work is going to benefit people like Robin Anderson, Beth Wood, Jay Ovittore and other down-ticket races. I'll be happy with that.



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I think it will calm down ...

... after the primary, and after a candidate emerges a clear winner. I really think it will be NC that does it, too. Maybe that's just being egocentric or something, but I'm starting to believe my bumpersticker: I'm the decider! :)

I think once it's settled down, all the work we've done will benefit everyone, from the top of the ticket all the way to the smallest local race. I'm really proud of the work we've done. It's kind of exciting when you think about it. Whew! It's going to be a great ride!

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Slim, as long as you drop little jewels like this:

icebergslim’s last word: the fat lady’s aria is completed

into the discussion, I will file your ramblings into the **comment edited by the "Wash Your Mouth Out With Soap Foundation** file, known in some circles as the trash can.

Thanks, Steve.

That bugged.

And I'm an Obama supporter.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Drive-bys

I think we'll have to expect them between now and May 6. As long as they don't pee on the floor, or break any of the furniture, someone can just open the backdoor and let them out.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

May cannot come quick enough.

I'd like to see more pro-candidate diaries written in Haiku.

Primary Season.
May cannot come quick enough.
Then blogs can calm down.

My fear is that only the state stuff will calm down

We may still have the presidential mess to contend with.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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haiku!

Obama or Hill?
North Carolina decides.
Refrigerator.

haikus are easy. They just don't make sense sometimes.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

more haiku

Drive-by pundits post
Carefully-typed talking points
Conjured out of Spin.

Or we could always try limericks...

Nice

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There was this poster from Nantucket

There was this poster from Nantucket
Who slung his slop by the bucket.
Icebergslims's his name,
And post-n-run's his game
But BlueNC-ers just chuck it.

Please note that this is the G version. I went through several PG-13/R versions. especially concerning the last line.

:)

Person County Democrats

I actively oppose gerrymandering. Do you?

Wow...that didn't take long did...32 minutes to be exact....

Ok, give me a few minutes here everyone. I will try to be brief, but I sure don't want to miss any of the 'points' made by Brunette...I am truly sorry to waste the space, but after all, as I predicted, I have been personally attacked.

#1 If you want to see who can out cuss each other; you have picked the wrong battle. However, since I am apparently known as a 'local prominent Democrat', prior County Commission candidate and elected party official, I shall refrain and this if for your benefit as well, of course. I like horses, but I am a cat person...so eat catshit! ooops..that one just slipped out..sorry.

#2 I never attempted to compare the candidate's supporters; and I only speak from my personal experience. I have been called a KKK member, a racist, bigot, bitch and c*@!*t on various so called Democratic blogs...all by Obama supporters while I was vehemently supporting John Edwards...not Hillary. I only recently started leaning toward Hillary. I like her health care plan which is truly universal, and I don’t' think Obama has the experience or backbone needed to run this country. Personally, Edwards was the only logical choice. However, these 'typical Obama supporters' that I refer to have quite frankly, made my choice in the primary easier.

#3 Where do you prefer I shove it? As a female I have options...and I certainly am not your 'buddy'.

#4 I don't recall referring to the Obama supporters as "those *other* guys"...do I detect a little bit of race baiting here..hmmmm?

#5 I never said I was a "disinterested party" and don't know where you would have gotten that idea anyway...quite the contrary in fact, I am very interested in who will lead this country out of the mess the Bush administration as created for us all. Whether or not you or anyone else has ever 'seen' me here before is totally irrelevant. I have been signed up from sometime now....and made a few comments every now and then. After all, I am busy on the ground with the local grassroots efforts and very active in the Democratic Party, work 40 plus hours a week, and quite frankly, I don't always have the time needed to peruse and post on the 'blogosphere'.

#6 Again, I will refrain from 'cussing' publicly moreover "online" since as we all know the written word will eventually come back and bite you on the butt when you least expect it...but perhaps if I think about it really really hard...I can send you a good ole down east cussing via telepathic messaging.....let me know if you get it, ok?

Ok folks, I think that concludes my comments. I would like to point out that believe I hit the nail on the head...

I was yelled and screamed at, if not called a liar at the very least, my credibility was questioned and I was personally attacked. I did state in my comment that I was not attempting to lay a flame bait and my comments were just that...my personal comments..my personal perception....I am however totally surprised at how little time it took for this to happen....

and I predict there will be more and more to come...just wait and see.

Silence is Betrayal...an Edwards Democrat.

Silence is Betrayal

Wow! How were you able to squeeze

six points of contention out of Brunette's post? That is a truly impressive accomplishment for someone who's not flamebaiting...

After all, I am busy on the ground with the local grassroots efforts and very active in the Democratic Party, work 40 plus hours a week, and quite frankly, I don't always have the time needed to peruse and post on the 'blogosphere'.

Jesus. I hope we didn't screw up your schedule or anything...

I can send you a good ole down east cussing via telepathic messaging.....

Actually, it doesn't really work like that. You have to send images, and you can't use written words, it has to be images of stuff. Like an image of a pair of lips pursing, followed by an image of your ass. Or an image of a yew, followed by a female dog. Stuff like that.

and I predict there will be more and more to come...just wait and see.

This post doesn't count. I was merely making fun of you, not making any political commentary. So it doesn't count.

By the way, I'm not flamebaiting either. :)

Steve, I came up with at least five

points of contention.

What purpose does this comment serve but to demean T-Rod and fan the flames? Do you know T-Rod and feel comfortable teasing her or are you simply stepping in the pile of horse manure Brunette provided you?



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Is that required now?

Do you know T-Rod and feel comfortable teasing her

Democratic stalwart or not, when someone posts stuff like "I was attacked just like I predicted I would be" and "I have more important things to do than hang out in the blogosphere", you can expect me to say something about it.

For someone to drop "typical Obama supporters" into the title of their post is a far more wide-reaching insult than what I said, but you back her up while chewing my ass out. Fantastic.

She did generalize

...but if you've been on the receiving end of a swarm of supporters (mine were Edwards supporters) then you feel some empathy for someone who is just waiting for the swarm. Do you know how often I refrain from posting what I really feel about Obama? As much as I'd like to share how I feel, it simply isn't worth the trouble and this is my home site!

The only reason I asked if you knew her was because that can put teasing in an entirely different light. It isn't required, but it is sometimes nice to know to help put comments in perspective. Parts of your comment seemed more good-natured than others. I couldn't tell if you knew T-Rod or not.

She was right. She was attacked like she predicted she would be. If I posted what I really think about Obama, I would be attacked. I've seen it happen on this site. It's not like she had to stretch very far to make that prediction.

It's typical of supporters of all the campaigns. Notice....I didn't say typical of all supporters.

Now...since I've been writing this (it takes me a while because I really do think about my comments......usually) Brunette has graciously apologized. It was the Scrubbing Bubbles.



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And a whiner on top of the rest of it

She doth protest too much ~

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

T-Rod....I am also

an Edwards supporter and I was actually swarmed and attacked by the Edwards camp very early on. I think I'm back to writing in JRE's name on the ballot. I'm not happy with Obama or Clinton, but I'm trying to separate my support for either of them from all the mess on the blogs. It is hard.

Sorry you were met with some undeserved harsh words. I remember your user name from your comment on the Eastern Caravan thread. It stuck out because I thought you were a he until you actually signed your name.



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Bwahahahahahahah

damn my side hurts.....good one sir!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

ok...everyone's apology is accepted..

I think we are all Democrats, right? Move on ....we have work do to.

Silence is Betrayal...an Edwards Democrat.

Silence is Betrayal