A U-turn by Jim Neal

Okay guys, I've done a 180 on this VP issue ...

Front-paged by James
After reflecting on the content of the speeches by Senators Obama and Clinton last Tuesday, I did a bit of soul-searching on the issue of my having supported the draftobamaclinton.com movement.

I am uncomfortable with the notion that any candidate can lay claim to deciding how they are going to use their 18M votes going forward as did Senator Clinton-- in spite of the fact that Sen Obama is the presumptive nominee.

Your votes are entrusted to a candidate, and they can be withdrawn. And in the aftermath of her remarks on Tuesday evening Senator Clinton has obviously changed her course.

It's understandable how she must have felt as she spoke on Tuesday. I imagine that in the moment-- after such a historical, grueling primary season-- the pressures and emotions with which she was grappling were daunting.

However, I read a post the next morning by the Political Editor at the Huff Post, Hilary Rosen, who had been a staunch and steadfast supporter of Sen Clinton. Hilary announced her support for Sen Obama and said "I'm not a bargaining chip." She's right.

Maybe Obama and Clinton are the most formidable duo. There is an argument to be made and I did so a few days ago. However, I've gotta say that I jumped the gun.

Sen Obama is about changing the status quo. As he said Tuesday evening, "changing Washington is about more than just changing parties...."

I want Barack Obama to be our next President. But, I don't want him to have to compromise a quality which makes him the transformational, inspirational politician he is: his commitment to changing the culture of politics. That is going to be one helluva tall order. Senator Clinton, accomplished and competitive and compelling as she may be, is representative of status quo politics. And Senator McCain as an agent of change-- well that's a curious notion.

I'll support whomever Senator Obama selects as his running mate. He's run the smartest campaign any Democrat has waged in my lifetime. Part of his genius is that he surrounds himself with very smart people and he listens to them.

I've pulled my endorsement of the movement to forge an Obama Clinton ticket.

I'll eat crow on this one without hesitation. Senator Obama is entitled to choose who he wants and not who he thinks he has to get.

And while I'm here (I am supposed to be "on vacation decompressing" but doing a pretty poor job of such...) I want you to know that I will be hosting a fundraiser at my home in Chapel Hill for Kay Hagan in early August. Details are yet to be confirmed-- but those of you interested in sponsoring and supporting stay tuned. Kay has a lot of money to raise in a very short period of time. It is critical for her to have the resources to defeat Senator Dole. She needs our help.

Send me an email here if you are interested and I'll be in touch.

jim

Comments

Thank you, Jim

It takes a lot to write a post like this. Some will criticize this as flip-flopping, but I take this as exactly what it is ... thinking things through and discussing them in the new town square.

Thanks.

James

PS Sign me up on your host committee for Kay.

I am not

invested in being right. Labels like flip-flopping are great exercises in branding (as you know better than me!)

But I don't believe there's any lack of virtue in changing your mind. I'm not running for anything-- and if I were I'd have said the same.

And....you're signed on. We'll talk offline.

Oh, I don't think this will be criticized as flip-flopping

That speech had some eye-openers. I found myself searching for positive reasons for some of the things she said. I can absolutely see why it would make Jim think again. I'm still working to understand what was behind some of what Clinton said on Tuesday. Initially, I wanted to believe she was simply refusing to toss her supporters aside and that is how Barack Obama has chosen to interpret her remarks.(....at least publicly) Charlie Rangel, a staunch Clinton supporter has also been critical of that speech. I think it left quite a few people scratching their heads.

I am hoping for a speech on Saturday from Senator Clinton that will have a more unifying message.



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360 is complete circle

(engineer and land surveyor, math goober speaking here)

360 is a complete circle, back to your orginal position.

Maybe you meant a 180?

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy

Unless of course

... it was a 360 circle that ended up on a higher plane? Ya never know.

James

PS I'm really glad we have engineer math goobers to keep things straight here!

keeping things straight

"keep things straight here!"

Now that would be zero degrees.

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy

Heh

Jim fixed the original post. Which goes to show how amazing the interTubes can be! Math nerds unite!

Oh boy

....now I'm not only flip-flopping but also doing a GWB!

hey I changed it

to 180!

Anyone who quotes Briscoe Darling isn't one I want to tangle with!

Great Choice

Not the Obama-Clinton stuff, but hosting a fundraiser for Kay. That takes a lot more courage and conviction than most people have.

I cant wait to beat Dole in November.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

thanks

and send me an email re. the fundraiser.

jim

Hahahaha!

I love Fridays. I think that might be my house.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors

no Linda

life is a crooked journey..

always a spiral, Jim.

Always.

Weaving in and out, so interconnected that pulling one thread over here affects another one all the way over there.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors

He needs to get a lot of viewpoints

If the delegates wanted to, they could force Clinton on Obama. That would mean about 60% of the superdelegates going for her as VP, as well as her pledged delegates sticking with her as VP, and that could be in the cards. "I supported you for President, now I'm supporting her for VP," superdelegates might say. Many of them decided to support Obama after years of support by (and from) the Clintons, a choice many have called the most difficult choice of their lives, so they may feel they "owe her one."

I hope this doesn't happen. I hope Obama makes a choice that is ratified by the delegates with little or no opposition. To accomplish this, Obama needs to vet his choice very well and also to discuss possible choices with as wide a range of party leaders as he can, including Clinton supporters. We cannot afford another Eagleton.

Well said, again.

If Obama's campaign thus far is any indication, he'll handle this process fairly and with a well-balanced strategic view. I think Jim Neal is saying he trusts Obama to make a wise choice. So do I.

Jim -

It means so much to me, as one of your supporters in the primary, to hear that you are going to be hosting a fundraiser for Kay at your home. You, sir, are a class act.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors

Thanks Linda but I'm

disappointed in you.

What did you expect I'd do?

I can't speak for Linda..

but I can speak for myself.
It isn't every day that you see a former "rival" take the extra step to host a fundraiser. State their support, sure. Make a speech, of course. But hosting a gig? Kudos.

I expected you to have class, man.

And to support Democrats, because that's what you do. But to host your former rival in your home - that is true grace. I am honored to know you.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
Pointing at Naked Emperors

Damn, a politician who admits error

Still waiting on that "reaching out to her critics" Kay Hagan promised. Pam Spaulding is still waiting on answers to her questions.

Thanks for actually listening and thinking, Jim.

Liberalism as a badge of honor!
No apologies, no excuses.

Liberalism as a badge of honor!
No apologies, no excuses.

Give Kay

some time guys.

I have every confidence she'll come around.

I agree with this Jim,

I don't want him to have to compromise a quality which makes him the transformational, inspirational politician he is: his commitment to changing the culture of politics.

but I also think we need to have a little faith in Barack's ability and desire to maintain this commitment. He's not a Dubya that can be manipulated like a puppet by his Veep, and changing politics requires that we change the politicians we have. You don't do that by associating only with like-minded people, you roll up your sleeves and jump right in, working for change constantly.

it really

is a dynamic, not static, process.

Yep. And I also believe

the following, which I'm sure many here will disagree with: Hillary Clinton is going to be around for a long time, and I have a feeling her political influence is going to grow (as opposed to disintegrating).

If we worry too much that Barack won't be able to affect change upon one Senator; to develop her into a positive tool for change, if you will, how in the world is he going to cope with both houses of Congress, not to mention the gargantuan bureaucracy the Executive has become?

I hate to say this, because I loathe polls, but we need some stats on voter preferences re Obama/Clinton vs Obama/other candidates. I have a feeling many here will be surprised.

Oh....I agree

I think she has a chance here to elevate her standing in a way that will establish her as a permanent force to be reckoned with......and I mean that in a good way.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Jim, you're great...I hope some of you rubs off on Kay.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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My compliments

on taking a clear position, but then calming and candidly re-evaluating it on further reflection. I agree with your review here, by the way. Hillary Clinton is an extraordinary talent, well-suited for the U.S. Senate. I am not at all sure that she is a good match for Barack Obama as his vice president. I am looking forward to hearing more from his search committee about options like Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius and New Mexico Governor (plus etc.) Bill Richardson.

Dan Besse

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Another possibility

I am looking forward to hearing more from his search committee about options like Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius and New Mexico Governor (plus etc.) Bill Richardson.

How about Tammy Duckworth? With an Iraq veteran at his side, that would balance out some of his foreign policy inexperience. :)

Whether or not Obama chooses

Whether or not Obama chooses Hillary, from the speech she just gave, it sounds like she’s committed to campaigning for him and not just giving one concession speech.

A U-turn isn’t a flip-flop as long as you’re still driving toward the same destination… a destination that has a strong democrat like Obama in the White House.

Well said

In fact, she just enhanced her standing with that excellent speech.

Thank you

Thanks for posting this. It's a classy politician -- hell, PERSON -- who can stand up and say "I was wrong."

Seeking a better path is not Flip-Floping

In fact...This is exactly the kind of thinking we need in Washington. The willingness to act on a better idea, or realization could have taken us all out of Iraq a log time ago.
The polarization we have experienced in Washington is partially due to "digging in" irregardless of the merits.

JFK pointed a new direction and we went to the moon. (We were willing to change direction and we did).

There are so many more examples of how changeing course has contributed to our greatness as a people.

Kay Hagan is our chance to put a better person, a more caring and able person, into the US Senate for NC. This is an opportunity for NC and for the country.

I stand with Jim and Kay and I admire Jim for his willingness to step up and recognize that there is a bigger picture. Selflessness is a rare commodity in US Politics. Jim is my friend, but that is not why I supported him. Kay is my friend as well, but my support for her now is based in my desire for a better union and a return to the greatness we once enjoyed in the world.

Let me know if I can help ya Jim.

Marshall Adame
2014 U.S. Congress Candidate NC-03