Shuler a Frontline Candidate?

I know that freshmen Representatives are more at risk than others, but does anyone from out WNC way think this is warranted? And, by that I mean, is there a chance in heck that Heath Shuler will lose in 2008? I don't see it happening, but give us your WNC prospective.

Heath ShulerThe Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee today announced the Members of DCCC Frontline program for the 2008 cycle...

The Frontline Program is a partnership between the DCCC and Members which lays the ground work for the 2008 cycle by supporting and expanding their fundraising and outreach operations. This competitive program requires members to meet aggressive fundraising goals, accelerate volunteer and recruitment efforts, and increase on-line networking.

Last cycle, the Frontline Program’s early success helped make half of the most competitive Democratic seats safe by the fall of 2006, allowing the DCCC to expand its offensive opportunities. Democrats have an outstanding record of defending tough seats with battle tested incumbents and have successfully protected 95 percent of their incumbents since 2002. In 2006, Democrats did not lose a single seat.
Representative Heath Shuler (NC-11)


The question

was posed to me by Sam, and I cant answer it.

"Is there even anyone big enough to run against him?"

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"Keep the Faith"

More conservatives all the time

When I lived in Asheville (UNCA class of 98), the place was a hippie haven, like Carrboro/Chapel Hill. Now, esp thru downtown redevelopment, it's being infiltrated more and more by high roller conservatives. It's only a matter of tiem before they try to buy his seat back.

I'm as liberal as they come, but I love the fact that Shuler makes our tent a little bigger. I moved to the Asheville area the year Taylor took that seat, and he was and is an awful human being, and a worse congressman.

I'd love to see Shuler do well. I think he's off to a good start, too, esp with his closing of Taylor's road to nowhere.

War is over if you want it.

And remember

In NC-11, Asheville is an island of deep blue in a sea of deep red. Much like Boone in NC-05 (until Democrats started kicking ass up there recently...)

That's correct

Which is why it's ok if he doesn't agree with me on a few things. The important thing is that he's a populist and people like him enable us to have a majority in the house, control the committees, and, most importantly, control hte debate.

What he did with the Fontana road to nowhere rocked!
His first act, even before he took his oath, was to say that that matter was closed. Strong for the environment AND a good steward of the people's money! Taylor was neither, and that's why he's out of a job!

War is over if you want it.

I think he needs to be on this list

This district and Southern NC has some nasty Republican motherfuckers (remember the waynesville church where all the Democrats were told to leave?). Its got a PVI of R+7. So, if NC goes for a Republican presidential candidate, Shuler is very much in danger. People REALLY hated Taylor, and I can bet you that shuler will be primaried from the left. Who knows how much damage that will do.

I actually like what Heath has done so far. He and his staff up here have been nothing but A+ to me. But he is in no way out of the woods yet.

This is the key

They're trying to do what they can to protect Heath in a presidential year.

And I truly hope that he won't be primaried from the left (although it is the absolute and unqualified right of Democrats to do so if they wish).

From the left

I'm with you on that. We need to have a big tent,and Heath has a big role to play.

War is over if you want it.

This just means

they're going to make him sit in some basement room for twice as long as the other freshman congressmen, making endless fund-raising calls. It's a way to get their asses in gear while pretending they're being honored.

I'm not sure about all this but give me a break . . . and call me cynical.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.


they are usually given rooms in another building, rather than the basement.

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I was told by someone from the DCC

or was it Emily's list? Anyway, that they stick the freshpersons in a horrible basement room (in what building, I know not) for hours every day, with a zillion phones, no privacy and some minder to keep them at it . . . Fun. And whether or not it's true, I'm sticking with the image.

You might be thinking of their offices. Heath's is in the attic.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.

I just meant

that they dont fundraise from their senate/house office building.

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I don' t know WHERE the basement room is

I just spread unconfirmed rumors when they appeal to me and don't spread them when they're boring . . .

And now the husband is pointing out that they wouldn't be doing any fundraising from government buildings blah blah blah. My story sounded so much more sordid.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.

Hey....better fundraising in a basement

than on K street.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Or pocketing the checks

to personal accounts . . .
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the drama.

tell him

to get out of here with all those facts.

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"Keep the Faith"

Having grown up west of Asheville

in the land of the thumping bible, the folks in my old enclave are about as conservative (on the national level) as they come. Funny thing is, when it comes to local politics, they vote on the individual, regardless of party affiliation, which on one hand makes sense (they know them personnaly, ergo, they can attest to the individual's attributes), but on the other hand, on the national level that same individual probably disagrees on issues that the religious right will give no quarter and brook no dissent.

An example is my parents, good people of faith who follow the teachings of Jesus (ya know, that liberal guy from a couple of millenia ago who said "love thy neighbor and all of that other liberal bullshit) will vote (D) on a national level, yet will vote across party lines for someone locally.

I don't think the voters are apt to dump Shuler after one term, unless he comes out in support of lettin' the "gays" marry, late-term abortions (or any abortion for that matter), or he says he is going to go door-to-door and collect their weapons (I still cannot call a weapon a gun, some shit you learn in boot stays with you).

Top of the ticket?

Hillary Clinton at the top of the 2008 ticket would make reelection more of a chore than Heath needs, I'm sure.

I don't know.

I think Heath would be fine, in that case he can call attention to the differences in his record and her's. People in NC are happy to split their ticket (Gore/Easley; Kerry/Easley), and I think they would do the same in this case.

Granted, I'm not a fan of Hillary's, but I think it is a bad idea to think we're sunk if she wins the nomination. I think any Democrat will have the lead heading into the general.

Where are the candidates?

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

Have you been to Hillary's website?

She's the only Democratic presidential candidate who doesn't have a link to where she stands on the issues. She's an "I look cute! Listen to my sound bites!" candidate.

I think they are right to be concerned

and Shuler's was an important win in a place where hope was less.

They will come after him for everything he does or does not do.

They will smear him in the mud, drag him with the blood, and metaphorically smash his face starting this time next year, if not sooner.

They are pissed they lost, fear they are losing their grip here and elsewhere.

And you know what? They are.

Bring it on, GOP.


Heath was outspent 3-1 in his race against Charles Taylor, and he doesn't want to be in that position ever again. He'll need 2.5million for the next election, and you don't raise that much money by waiting for 2008.

By helping others fundraise, Heath is joining in the age-old dysfunction of money politics. It's necessary if you're going to hold your seat for long, but it's a real distraction from the business of governing.

Public financing for elections could help do away with nonsense like this.

Scrutiny Hooligans -

any idea

who will challenge him?

War is over if you want it.