Robin Hayes Wants To Know What To Do About Illegal Immigrants

This is my first post....please be gentle...

Just received an email from Robin Hayes asking what should be done about the illegal immigration "problem".

(Robin, this "problem" has been around for a while, not just during election years!)

In the first part of the email (which I suspect came through the RNC), Hayes tells about the "scary" problem of illegals being caught at Ft. Bragg...

A recent incident at Ft. Bragg demonstrated that illegal immigration continues to be a serious problem for our nation as a whole and North Carolina in particular. Last week, officials at Fort Bragg worked with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to detain 58 illegal immigrants seeking to enter the base to complete construction work. The Fayetteville Observer reported that among those detained were, “a suspected gang member, a sex offender, three immigration fugitives and two people who had re-entered the country after deportation.” Fortunately, Fort Bragg is working to keep the base secure from those who should not have access, however, this is a startling reminder that unauthorized persons will try to gain access to our nation’s most sensitive sites.

When he says recent, I believe it means this century.
He then goes on to "bragg" about how he has informed Rumsfeld that the problem is with the contractors not screening their cheap labor good enough.

As I told Secretary Rumsfeld in a letter, I believe the problem fundamentally resides with the contractors and proper screening of their employees. In the short run, it is very clear that the Department of Defense must send word from the top down that contractors and subcontractors working on military bases be required to fully verify the legal immigration status of their workers.

Hayes is very proud of supporting the House version of the immigration bill and feels that they NEED MORE WALLS!

This incident highlights the immigration issue in a new and serious way. The House and Senate have passed vastly different pieces of legislation to curb illegal immigration. I support the House version, which seeks to secure our borders first. This issue is critical to our communities and I want to hear from you. Please complete the survey on the right because I would like to know your opinion on this important issue.

Unfortunately, the survey doesn't leave much room for opinion, guess the Republicans really do hand feed their "base"

What should we do about illegal immigration?

*Secure our borders first

*Implement an amnesty plan for existing illegal aliens

*Nothing, Let the system continue with no changes


mo, I can't believe this is your first post

I feel like we're family. Nice work for a first post!

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The Bragg incident was earlier this year, I believe. But I like how Hayes gives us three options, and only the first one is something that anyone in the United States is talking about. (The second one of course is part of the Senate plan and the President's plan, but neither of them begin and end with amnesty, and neither the Senate nor the President would use the word "amnesty.")

"Would you prefer that I:
a) give you $5,
b) poke you in the eye, or
c) steal your house one brick at a time?"

Thanks Lance,

That really means a lot to me! I thought I would try one out as practice before I do my real post on the candidates.

I don't see anything that tells me to "edit"...maybe when I get home it will show up. For some reason, the work computer doesn't give me all the "nuts & bolts" like my home computer does.


If you're logged in, the "edit" tab should show up between the "submitted by momoaizo..." line near the top of the page and the body of the post itself.

Let me know if it doesn't and I'll track down the problem.

A recent incident at Ft. Bragg

He's just mad because they wouldn't let him in the gate at a "recent incident at Ft. Bragg".

Great first entry!

Poor old Flip-Floppin. It's kind of sad to see any Congressman reduced to such pathetic pandering.

Ok, I'm home now

and that does show up. It was probably there at work and I just didn't know where to look...or just didn't look;)

Thanks for fixing that for me Lance!

um, "scarry"?

did flip-floppin' robin really refer to the immigration problem as "scarry" in the e-mail? heh, i guess grammar wasn't part of the history curriculum @ duke in the 60s.

i'm sorry - when i see "scarry", i think about richard scarry, the children's book author what brung us "busytown", not "ooooh, we gotta keep those scarry brown people out of our country!"

No syntax, my words...

did i spell it wrong or use it incorrectly?


i'm sorry... "scarry" was in quotes, and i assumed the typo was used in the rnc e-mail, which made hayes look like an even bigger idiot in my mind, and... um... i feel like a total tool now.

want a cookie? they're singoalla lemon-lime sandwich cremes... :)


Thank you again Lance....I'm becoming high maintenance, sorry.

Yummmm, thanks syntax

btw, fixed the typo, should have spell-checked.

Robin Hayes

I received the same e-mail, and I can't figure out how they got my e-mail address. I am absolutely not on any of their donor lists.


You probably complained you liberal you!

I received the e-mail too.You don't need to be one of his supporters to get e-mails from Flip-floppin' Robin.
They sent it out to anyone who ever contacted Hayes' office about one of his votes. So even if you sent him some "action e-mail" from a "liberal" website to complain about how bad he voted on an issue, they still include your e-mail address in their database.

Robin Hayes
Larry Kissell

Lovex7, did you sign up to go on any of their

blogs? I have been receiving emails from the RNC ever since I signed up for one.

They ask for way too much info, jeez, they could have just gone to the NSA....

didn't know where else to post this

The dems have sent a letter to bush telling him it's time to start pulling troops out of iraq.

With the midterm elections three months away, and Democrats seeing public discontent over Iraq as their best chance for retaking the House or Senate, a dozen key lawmakers told Bush in a letter: "In the interests of American national security, our troops and our taxpayers, the open-ended commitment in Iraq that you have embraced cannot and should not be sustained. . . . We need to take a new direction."

Looks like the Dems are getting their voices back!


Done, done

Thanks for posting these at dKos and MyDD, momo.

Great first post. You're a freaking natural. Reminds me of a certain Drama Queen who showed up a few months ago with a head full of steam and the talent to match.

For some reason I can't login. Selah.

Screwy Hoolie

Thanks Stan, Yes

I would love all the help you provide!

Screwy, I've heard that name

a couple of times, believe me tho, it's not me...but thanks for the compliment!

Late to the party

Great first post momo....sorry I wasn't here. I did see it as soon as you posted it and recommended to front page, but we were literally heading out the door. I had the pleasure of attending my children on their first concert. Oh boy...happy, happy, joy, joy.

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Nice Post...but he isn't the only politician asleep on the issue

Nice Post...but he isn't the only politician that needs to get off the "Rip VanWinkle" act ! How about all of our STATE reps down in Raleigh ..(house and senate)....Have they not realized that almost 1 out of every 10 people that they pass on the street in this state is now an illegial alien??? HELLO !!!
First....Lets start by making NC a little less "friendly"
...Como se dice en Espanol: "Nothing could be finer than being an alien in the morning "
Maybe we could make a special Amtrak run from Raleigh to Mexico City and call it the "Mexican Citizen Return Special" ! That would be better than sending the NC national guard to the border! And, I bet some smart congressman could get a Federal Grant to pay for such an "innovative" use of public transportation resources !
*** Wake UP NC !! ** Stop the INVASION !!! ***

Thank you SD,

I knew you were up to your neck in something....

Attended your children in a concert? Splain please.

The girls wanted to see

The American Idol concert. Their father, of course, couldn't say no. Sadly, I was included...:) It was actually fine. I guess I shouldn't say first concert...they've been to the symphony and to pops concerts...hehehe

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Your Family is Much More Important

Than this family. But family we seem to be. Thank you so much for your help and encouragement. Enjoy the time you have with them, they'll be gone in a blink.

Both mine are grown, our oldest, Valencia has two children. Our baby, Davey, although his online name is Aizo (hence mom of aizo or momoaizo), has proposed and will be married with his own family in a year.


Talk about sunshine patriots! If Hayes, et al., were really concerned about undocumented workers (sorry, but I refuse to label any human being "illegal"), they would start by addressing the causes of this phenomenon, including (1) American corporate policies that have decimated many Latin American economies, and (2) the accepted corporate practice of getting labor as cheaply as possible. I'm afraid that Democrats will lose control of this issue if they play to the Republican meme of "scary brown people who threaten our way of life."

Hit the nail on the head

You're absolutely right. Corporate enforcement has virtually disappeared since Bush took office. An article published in the Washington Post on June 19 states:

The Bush administration, which is vowing to crack down on U.S. companies that hire illegal workers, virtually abandoned such employer sanctions before it began pushing to overhaul U.S. immigration laws last year, government statistics show.

Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three.

Jim Wright is a Democrat running for the TX-08 seat, and he cites the debacle of the Reagan amnesty combined with the completely abandonment of corporate enforcement under GW Bush as the source of our problem.

The plain fact is that until Ronald Reagan called off enforcement of our labor laws we didn't have an immigration problem. The amnesty of 1986, combined with his attacks on the power of labor unions, turned a migrant population into permanent residents, taking what used to be good union jobs away from American citizens.

Under George Bush the situation has grown dramatically worse as work site enforcement has dropped 95%, and the number of employers prosecuted and fines against them have dropped to almost nothing. THAT'S our problem, friends. There is no fence that can seal our borders as long as there are employers scoffing at the law to hire people who shouldn't be here.

When you factor in the stagnant minimum wage, you have conditions ripe for undocumented workers.

The NY Times ran on Op-Ed by Michael Dukakis about a week ago that said:

Americans will work at jobs that are risky, dirty or unpleasant so long as they provide decent wages and working conditions, especially if employers also provide health insurance. Plenty of Americans now work in such jobs, from mining coal to picking up garbage. The difference is they are paid a decent wage and provided benefits for their labor.

I think they're all right. You cannot build a fence that will ever stop the flow of undocumented workers as long as there exists an available labor market created by low wages and lack of enforcement of existing wage law.

Bush Economy

Good first post, m!!!

I like how you contrast Hayes' statement that "the problem fundamentally resides with the contractors and proper screening of their employees" with his 3 "choices", none of which involves employeers!!! Cracking down on employeers is the only way that illegal immigration will be stopped or even slowed.

-- ge

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