Rest in Peace, Eve Carson

This past week, Chapel Hill and UNC-Chapel Hill was truly rocked by the murder of student, activist, and Student Body President Eve Carson. The Daily Tar Heel has coverage of all the details, and a community wall if you want to leave a remembrance. This past week I was in the hospital with our 8-month old who picked up pneumonia and was in pretty bad shape. I'm sure the doctor's were never worried about her, but we were. At the time she was admitted, I was actually at home by myself with a 104 degree fever trying to make it through the night. So, in my state of near delirium it was very scary what was happening to my daughter.

Maybe it's because of the juxtaposition that the death of sweet Eve Carson is just stuck in my head.

Maybe it's because I have another little daughter who has the same bright smile as Eve Carson, that I can't get this senseless murder out of my head.

Maybe it's because this happened in my own backyard, at an intersection I travel often, that I can't forget about the death of Eve Carson.

Maybe it's because I just finished spending several weeks reading about Eve and her rise to the Presidency and thinking "What a bright future!", maybe that is why I can't help thinking about her and her family.

Or, maybe it's just because I'm human and the bastard(s) who did this aren't. Eve Carson was on her way to an incredibly bright future, which was taken away by senseless violence that we still don't understand. Maybe that is why none of us should ever forget her. I know I won't.


Prayers for Eve

Prayers for Eve's family and friends. Also, prayers for your little one and her big brother and sister. I hope you're feeling better.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Everyone is better now.

I'm left wondering how her parents will ever recover from this and I guess the simple fact is, they won't. My prayers to her family and to the many people at UNC who came to know and respect Eve.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

I can't imagine

any parent recovers from the loss of a child.

I'm glad you and your family are all feeling better.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

what I see in my son's eyes

is the future, is a whole section of my heart that grew when I first took him in my arms when he was a fat little baby in China, and I cannot even go to the place where Eve Carson's parents now must call their emotional home.No parent wants to think about this, and I can only hold them in my thoughts and prayers.

Still, this loss hurts the whole community, in that she represents the hopes and sunny future of a lot of the students, I am sure. I can only hope the students will feel her inspiration and not give in to despair.

Years ago, in the late 70s, my brother was carjacked at gunpoint off a sunny street in Dallas in the middle of the afternoon. He narrowly avoided being killed - the 20 year old who did it later killed two people, and went to prison for two life sentences. The stupidity and randomness is a deep shock to everyone around her, as there are no real "lessons" to learn. It just happened because someone was stupid and thought this was somehow a way to get a little bit ahead of where he is now, which is NOWHERE. I hope he is caught soon, and I do not want to be on the jury that must try him. They will need to eliminate all parents, for starters.

Robert, I hope your family moves out of flu season quickly.

Your brother was so lucky!

Gosh, you hear those stories and these stories and think, "There, but for the Grace of God (Karma, Fate), Go I."

I think our family is healthy, now back to the regular challenges of 3 kids.
; )

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

sometimes a little luck comes along

My brother had four small kids at the time(now six,and grandkids)and the last thing the guy did was pull over and tell my brother to lie down in front of the car - so he could run over him. My brother got out(he had a bullet in his leg by this time) and pretended to faint. The guy drove off. My brother also recovered his briefcase(he was a banker then) which was tossed by the side of the road in west Texas somewhere. And when my bleeding brother went to knock on doors to ask for help, the second one he tried was a secretary from his bank who recognized him.

I am not close to my brother, but after that I had to go to Cancun and sit and listen to the ocean for a week to get over the panic I felt. That is why I say that this will have repercussions around the community. That proximity to death is very hard for a lot of people, especially the young and "invincible."

there is no satisfactory answer to that question

There is never a good answer to that question in a murder like this, except that sometimes people do evil things.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

The "person of interest" had his picture on the front page

of our paper today. Taken at an ATM as he tried to use Miss Csrson's ATM card. This person will be caught. He's obviously too stupid not to be caught.
And, not to re-energize an ongoing discussion here, but this is the kind of person that deserves the death penalty.

Stan Bozarth

I'm hard pressed to disagree with you.

On both points.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

Death Penalty

Sorry, nobody deserves the death penalty. It is not our place to determine who lives and dies.

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy


He has already made that choice for himself.

I wonder if Eve was allowed to choose?

Senseless, sad and unexcusable. I know Athens has been rocked by this as well. Some of my very good friends live there and that community is still reeling.

This kind of senseless violence

has killed a million people in Iraq and tens of thousands in Afghanistan, thanks to the US invasion.

Multiply the pain of those parents by hundreds of thousands and keep in mind - they most blame the USA, as does the rest of the world.

We have such a violent society here in the USA, and using the death penalty will never change that.



You make a great point, OT, but a great point.

The sense of lost we feel is nothing compared to the loss that families must feel when their babies and children are bombed by the United States. We create an entire generation with no purpose but to kill us in return, to seek vengeance.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

I suppose one might make that provocative

statement as premise for an argument to which there is no end. Everyone has an opinion...and (reading your referenced article)...injustices have most assuredly been done.

I won't sully this lovely young woman's memory or her parent's grief by engaging in such an argument. A beautiful promising life was taken by a brutal assassin. If you think this thug deserves to live and live out the rest of his worthless life being fed, clothed and cared for at taxpayer expense, that's your privilege.

Stan Bozarth

If you're worried about saving taxpayers money...

Locking someone up for life is a lot cheaper than executing them.

A study found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life (Cook & Slawson. 1993). On a national basis, these figures translate to an extra cost of over $700 million dollars spent since 1976 on the death penalty.

Cook, Philip & Slawson, Donna. 1993. "The costs of processing murder cases in North Carolina." Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy, Duke University.

the process is absurd...

as are the costs. I'm not going to argue absurdities.

Stan Bozarth

But you did, Stan

Or more to the point, I would say you were not arguing so much as expressing anger and grief, which is understandable.

But a subject as significant as whether or not our society supports the death penalty shouldn't be mixed in with the way we *feel* when something like this horrific murder occurs. I certainly understand the anger, and feel I would be capable of personally committing mayhem or murder if a loved one of mine were harmed, but that's not the same thing as believing that my doing so is in the best interest of society or that my doing so is just in any other regard.

The death penalty won't take away grief and it won't deter the next murder. And as has been noted, it costs much more to put someone to death than it does to lock 'em up. But in neither case are we getting any closer to preventing the next gang slaying or other senseless homicide.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

So sad...

My heart goes out to Eve's family and friends. The thought of living through the loss of a well, horrifying.

Glad to hear you and your baby are better, Robert. My daughter had pnemonia as a toddler and was hospitalized. My husband and I were pretty worried too, but she recovered well. Amazing how fast kids bounce back.