...at the Capital Beat. Lance's blog Comments Things aren't looking good. Although I'm not sure that the teen-wage provision should be a killer. It's only down to 85% and it's only for 90 days. While that's wrong, not passing the bill because of it would be more wrong. Seems like piling-on to me. Pell Grants getting slimmer and fewer. Student Loan costs going up. Now this. It very much feels like the year of "Piling-on" as far as our state's future, her young folks, goes. Lawmakers obviously think there's not enough dynamite in the world to get eighteen and nineteen year olds out to vote this fall. I have a feeling their estimation is not wholly correct. Seems to me like we'll probably see the current cohort of working teenagers voting in four and six and eight years for whatever party refuses this silliness and waits six months to push through a real minimum wage law that doesn't sell them down the river. And what of the 18 year old newly aged out of the foster system? God knows they need more challenges. Pulling oneself up by one's non-existent bootstraps is so dang much fun and all, lets see how we do without any boots at all! yeehah. I'll have to stand with Rep. Alma Adams on the 85% ammendment. It's just craziness. Do not concur. We take the ammended bill like it is and it'll be years before a better one is considered. "They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot." Really? I agree with all that you wrote except that it all outweighs the potential benefits to adults now trying to live on $5.15 an hour. Trying to live on $5.15 an hour I was at an event at the North Raleigh Hilton last year when I saw a woman tending the bar who looked familiar. She said she also worked down the street at a McDonalds. I remembered later she also works the register at the grocery store so she's working three low wage jobs to get by. On the flip side I was in a McDonalds in Wilmington last week where the tray liners were actual job application forms. When McDonalds has trouble getting staff you know there's something odd about the labor market. Hooray!! I'd love to know how and why the "20" ammendment was removed from the Senate min. wage bill. I heard -- driving home -- that there had been an "about face" in the Senate and the original bill had passed unammended. I also heard that new labor statistics released today (i think) for NC indicated a marked increase in the number of workers who sought out and took second jobs. That's a pretty big indication that people are struggling. You think there's any way that news got to the GA floor today? A fellow Johnston Dem told me that only eight Senators voted against the increase. She also told me that our Senator was one of those eight. hmm. There is much I would like to say about that, but alas, if I wrote those words here my post would be destined for the discard folder, and I would probably be struck by lightning where I sit. I'm wondering ... when I vote this fall, instead of just not voting for this millionaire lawyer/developer who claims to represent my below median wage earning bee-hind, can I write on the ballot next to his name ... "Not just no ... H-E-doublehockeysticks no!" ?? "They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot." Leslie I encourage you to write, said millionaire, and let him know just how you feel. They really do need to hear from us. Often. *************************** Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own. meanwhile in the nc senate Senate to take up minimum wage today The bill is h2174 Passed Temporarily. training Wage was stripped from the final approval of the Senate. 32-8 was the tally. Capital Beat How can you be for a higher minimum wage, yet a 85% training wage is ok? I'll tell you as a college student who worked when he was 18 and 19, $6 was cutting it way way too close. 90 days is three months. One semester is barely 4 months. So you would want students to go for a whole semester earning $5/hr, before taxes? Not cool. And whats with having to be 20? What kind abritary number is that? Be just, and fear not. Our children need to know that some people fought back, when others collaborated. YB, I'm not sure whether YB, I'm not sure whether your question is addressed to those who put the provision in the bill or to me regarding my comments above, but just in case: I wasn't saying that I was OK with the training wage. Oh no I meant the Assembly as a whole Sorry, i could have been more specific! Be just, and fear not. Our children need to know that some people fought back, when others collaborated. No big deal. I just didn't No big deal. I just didn't want anyone thinking I hate the childrens. $10,712 No one should be forced to live on slightly more than $10,000 for a year's worth of 40 hour work weeks. What angers me greatly is the thought that this number has not changed since 1997. No one would argue that this number's buying power has decreased greatly, yet we as a nation (and as a state) can simply claim that business would be hurt by having to pay workers more. Someone working full time should never have to live in poverty. Food for thought $10,712 just doesn't cut it. 2006 HHS Poverty Guidelines Census Bureau Poverty Thresholds 2004 From HHS Poverty Guidelines FAQ: What programs use the poverty guidelines? The HHS poverty guidelines, or percentage multiples of them (such as 125 percent, 150 percent, or 185 percent), are used as an eligibility criterion by a number of federal programs Are the poverty guidelines before-tax or after-tax? Are they gross income or net income? What definition of income is used with the poverty guidelines? There is no simple answer to these questions. When determining program eligibility, some agencies compare before-tax income to the poverty guidelines, while other agencies compare after-tax income. Likewise, eligibility can be dependent on gross income, net income, or some other measure of income. Federal, state, and local program offices that use the poverty guidelines for eligibility purposes may define income in different ways.