Obama does Chapel Hill

I was wondering how long it would take the Dome to get in the loop on Barack Obama's fundraiser in Chapel Hill on June 14th. I found out about it a month ago when I was asked to be a sponsor. I declined, but now I'm trying to finagle a free blogger pass. I might be able to pull that off since the host has been my business partner for the past 25 years . . . but you never know.

The Illinois senator will attend a fundraiser June 14 in Chapel Hill, near the home of the former North Carolina senator. The event is being hosted by Steve Lerner, a public relations and marketing executive who previously supported Virginia Gov. Mark Warner's presidential bid. Lerner was one of three principals in FGI Marketing Communications, which was bought by Capital Strategies in 1999.

The Dome gets a most of the historical facts wrong, but that's not surprising given that it's the Dome. They could have just called me and gotten the straight scoop.

Anyway, I'll let you know if I can sneak in. I'd really like to do a head-to-head comparison with Edwards. I've met John a couple of times and I always like what I see. But I'd like to know more about Barack Obama, too.

(Note: I was also an early Mark Warner backer and was disappointed to see him drop out.)

(Update: My criticism of the Dome on factual errors was an out-of-line exaggeration. They got it right enough. I retract my comment and have apologized to Mr. Dome.)

Comments

boo.

This is a pissin' contest. Chapel Hill ain't Raleigh or Charlotte or Chicago with a huge population, it's a tiny little town, a "home town". Just goes to show that everything is politics as usual.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

If that's your reaction ...

Then maybe you should give your blogger pass to someone who will be fair to Obama ;-)

Oh wait, I don't want to get kicked out of your house on Sunday ...

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

I thought the money was there the whole time?

I declined, but now I'm trying to finagle a free blogger pass. I might be able to pull that off since the host has been my business partner for the past 25 years . . . but you never know.*A

If you don't know your business partner after 25 years, I suggest a complete audit for the past 25 years of the business checking account.

You are starting to sound like Art Pope about backing Rudy Soprano, Sponge Bob, and a thousand of Republican free loaders in this state.

Now that hurt, Max.

Say almost anything you want, but don't say I sound like Art Pope. I'd sooner jump in the lake and become fish food.

Boo to you

There is a lot of liberal money in Chapel Hill; certainly more than in Charlotte. If I were Obama, it's the first place I would have a fundraiser in NC ... except that I would have it while school was in session and draw a huge crowd. But he's not doing the last part, which would be making it a contest.

Charlotte makes more sense for Hillary, but not for Obama ... even though Obama did hit up CrownTown first.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

So?

Chapel Hill is close to Raleigh, fairly convenient to the Triad, and the big politico and logical choice for host lives there.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

bull

more money in chapel hill than charlotte? please

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

"Keep the Faith"

For Obama?

Charlotte does not give money to Democrats that aren't members of the Charlotte Chamber. It is a hard place to raise money, and Hillary has many of the big money people locked up.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

?

In the first quarter Obama raised 50,000 in 28XXX zip codes. Hillary raised 52,000.

Charlotte is 10 times the size of Chapel Hill. In 2004 Mecklenburg County had 4 times the amount of votes for John Kerry as Orange County.

Obama also has something like 30-50% of African American support across the country.

Chapel Hill is about 12% Black. Charlotte is about 30%

Need I go on?

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

"Keep the Faith"

ok

median household income in charlotte is 46,000+
median household income in chapel hill is 40,000+

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

"Keep the Faith"

Um

Basic demographics don't matter at all for high dollar fundraisers. All that matters is that there is a donor network, and high dollar donors who can put the events together and attract people.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

For the Record.

Obama's already been to Charlotte--he did a fundraiser at the Charlotte City Club on his way to South Carolina on April 13.

Also, Hillary was in Charlotte last month (May 20) for a fundraiser.

Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

Again: So?

Chapel Hill is close to Raleigh, Durham, and the Triad, and I believe that Chapel Hill residents would say it's nicer than those places.

R-D-CH gave $33K to Obama (on opensecrets, that's the same as what he got from Metrolina), and Obama hasn't worked it at all. And, as I said, Obama did end up doing Charlotte first so it didn't look like a contest.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Your right Sam. This has nothing to do with being John Edwards

hometown and I'm sure the press coverage will ignore that fact and Obama won't get all kinds of free media time on TV because of it.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Wait, I thought John's home town was Seneca

or is that only when he's in SC? OK, I'll try not to be sardonic about this ...

Obama gets press coverage everywhere he goes, because he's Obama.

And you could put a more positive, less paranoid sounding spin on this, something like "Obama's spending time in the 'Thrill because knows Edwards is a legitimate challenger."

Money is money. But if Obama's primary goal was to one-up Edwards on his home court, he would have come while school was in session, attracting a huge crowd, etc.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Seriously

It would be messed up if they were going to Robbins, but CH makes a lot of sense for the reasons you mention. It being next to Edwards house (which he's lived in for what 2 years?) is just a bonus for Obama. It's politics not a bake sale. Edwards has never hesitated to go in Clinton or Obama's front stoop and has gotten free pub for it, why should they?

sure

but you cant say that and then say it has nothing to do with Edwards.

Besides, given the fact that Hillary claims like 5 places as home, Chicago is neutral territory.

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

"Keep the Faith"

I never said it had nothing to do with Edwards

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Its funny

I think if Warner had stayed in this place would have either become Warner's NC headquarters or a huge fight would have broken out between Warner and Edwards people.

Draft Brad Miller-- NC Sen ActBlue

"Keep the Faith"

Edwards wins Chapel Hill.

The only endorsement that matters.
: )

Dear Robert,

After 36 years as head coach of UNC basketball,
I am still just as committed to progress, high goals, hard work, and supporting the community that surrounds us. North Carolina's own John Edwards is turning 54 this Sunday and I'm going to be there to celebrate with him.

For $15 you can join us and take part in the celebration.

* What: "Small Change for Big Change" grassroots fundraiser with John Edwards and you

* When: Sunday, June 10th, 5 PM - 7 PM.

* Where: Best Western University Inn, 1310 Raleigh Road (54 Hwy East), Chapel Hill, NC 27515.
*You can pay at the door as well as online*

John's ideals are ones that are close to my heart and ones that I've fought for all my life. I support John Edwards because he has worked on issues that matter—ones that I really care about—like poverty and ending the war in Iraq. John Edwards cares about family and faith like I do. And I believe John Edwards is the best person to lead this country.

John will stand up for all of us and I will stand with him this Sunday. Please join us for this Small Change for Big Change event in Chapel Hill:

www.johnedwards.com/smallchangeforbigchange/20070610-rsvp

There will be entertainment, popcorn, a pig roast, and of course, pie. Feel free to bring your friends and we'll see you Sunday evening.

Thank you,

Coach Dean Smith

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Come here then go there!

I got the same message from Coach Smith . . . even though I know it's just a computer, I still liked getting it.

There's a picture of me, Erskine, and Dean Smith

out there somewhere ... and I never got it.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Ah, I've missed you guys

Was out the last couple of weeks for surgery. Didn't want to subject you to my vicodin-fueled thoughts, but I will subject you to the codeine-fueled ones.

I love that Obama is paying attention to this area, and he has really been on the money, in a more figurative sense, lately. I know Edwards was goaded into it by Blitzer the other night, but Obama gave him just the sort of smackdown we (Obama supporters) have been waiting for on war leadership. There's a way to set people straight, and he showed it, big-time. To Edwards' credit, he backed off. Great debate, though, and Obama and Edwards really showed Hillary they are ready for a long fight.

If I were Edwards, I'd take him coming to Chapel HIll as a compliment. No more, no less.

Anglico, it's too bad you wouldn't co-sponsor, but I really hope you'll get in. I think you'll convert. Sure is nice over here.

War is over if you want it.

War is over if you want it.

Shoot

I love vicodin fueled thought! Sorry we missed them.

Are you okay now? All is well?

Good to have you back.

No, you're really not

Nice to be back. I am doing quite well. Just had plastic surgery to repair the bridge of my nose, which collapsed from auto-immune illness complications. Now that I'm back in remission, they let me have the surgery to fix the deformity. I feel like myself again, which is scary to those around me!

But really, I was pretty loopy on the vicodin. I make much better sense in codeine world, IMHO.

War is over if you want it.

War is over if you want it.

The Political Reality

I seriously doubt that Obama's campaign organized this event. What's more likely is that someone (presumably Steve Lerner) talked to the campaign about the possibility, lined up some co-hosts, determined a location and then extended an official invite to the campaign. An invite which, by the way includes John Sall, one of richest men in the state (and the country, according to Fortune magazine)...and since Julianna Smoot (Obama's Finance Director) isn't an idiot, she accepted the invitation.

This is politics, people...if one of the richest men in America calls whatever candidate I'm working for in the future and tells us he wants to hold a fundraiser for us...barring him being the spawn of Satan or something...our asses are on the plane. Period. I wouldn't care if fundraiser was next door to my opponent's house...you go because you're in a campaign that needs money to survive. Don't be stupid and suggest you wouldn't do the exact same thing.

The reality is, North Carolina Democrats are not behind Edwards' presidential run in the same way Illinois Democrats are for Obama or New York Democrats are for Hillary. Just look at the new PPP poll that Justin posted earlier--Edwards is only getting support from 30 percent of the Democrats that sent him to the US Senate. Hillary's nearly within the margin of error against Edwards, for chrissakes. Obama supporters, who according to the poll are 22 percent of NC Democrats, deserve an opportunity to support his candidacy in person...and the undecides deserve an opportunity to hear from someone else.

If Edwards wants to change the headline, he and Elizabeth will invite Barack (and his family, should they be traveling with them) over to the house for some sweet tea and pecan pie.

Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

Yup

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Mmmmmmmmmm...pie

Have Barack over for pie... that would be sweet (especially if they make it with a full cup of sugar).

great idea

If Edwards wants to change the headline, he and Elizabeth will invite Barack (and his family, should they be traveling with them) over to the house for some sweet tea and pecan pie.

I think that is a great idea. It would give Edwards some positive publicity in the midst of Obama's visit and show once again how gracious John and Elizabeth are.

Yes, I'm sure it's just

a coincidence there's an Obama event in Chapel Hill less than a week after John's birthday party, and I'm sure the planners will make sure there's at least a few dozen more people at Barack's thingie, so his marketing people can crow about Obama beating Edwards in his own hometown.

*sigh*

As Sam said...

So?

If Anglico's initial post is true, this fundraiser was in the works over a month ago, before any of us heard about Edwards' birthday party. The timing is purely coincidental, in my view, but even if it isn't....so what?

If the Edwards campaign can't get more people at a $15 fundraiser in his home state than Obama gets at $1,000 per person reception, then he's got bigger problems to worry about than Obama traipsing on his birthday celebration.

Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

True....and since we're talking about a function on Sunday

everyone attending the Edwards birthday bash should head on over to Anglico's lovely home to show some support for Larry Kissell.

Shameless plug for my favorite congressional candidate.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Yep.

I'll post another BIG invite tomorrow. But go ahead and mark your calendar. 4 - 6 pm.

So, it's a pissing match...

just like Robert said. Will Obama make money from his reception? Absolutely. Was money the only purpose driving the decision to host the reception in Chapel Hill? Absolutely not. To suggest otherwise is entirely disingenuous.

I'm sure you'll just say, "So?" in response. You believe that "this is politics, people," and there are no holds barred. That's fine. Other people clearly find it distateful for a candidate to come into another candidate's relatively small hometown to raise money. That's also a valid opinion to have. I'm sure lots of Obama supporters would feel similarly irritated if Edwards went to Hyde Park to have a fundraiser.

In your previous post you said that people shouldn't be "stupid" and suggest that they would stay away from a fundraiser that has the potential to make lots of money. I don't think people are saying they would avoid the fundraiser. I think they're saying they would try to work out another location. Even if they are saying they would avoid the fundraiser, that's not stupid, that's how they feel candidates should act.

You also mentioned that Obama's North Carolina supporters deserve to support his candidacy in person and that the undecideds deserve an opportunity to hear from someone else. This is clearly just a strawman. No one has suggested that having fundraisers in North Carolina should be off-limits to Obama or Hillary or Gravel. All I've seen anyone say is that they think the decision to host a fundraiser in Chapel Hill is politically motivated. They think candidates shouldn't raise money in each other's immediate backyard because it's a nice gesture, stupid as you might think it is.

For the record: I've worked for Edwards and Obama in the past, and I honestly haven't decided which candidate I'll vote for in the primary.

Nobody is saying that Chapel Hill isn't a factor

But money is the biggest factor. If Steve Lerner lived in Cary, the fundraiser would be in Cary. Nobody (smart) plays dumb games with fundraising. If this were a rally, it would be different, but Obama would still get Triangle press if he were in Durham or Raleigh.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Sam, I'm going to try to respond to both you and nctodc here:

I agree that no one specifically said Chapel Hill isn't a factor. Based on nctodc's sequence of events, however, the campaign had little to no input into the decision about the location. The implication from this is that the location of the fundraiser is a coincidence, not due to a political calculation. Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but that's why I said it's disingenuous to suggest that politics was not a factor.

At any rate, it seems like you and he actually agree that while money was the driving force, the chance to tweak Edwards was also a factor. We can debate which was more important all day without resolving anything. The fact that the Obama campaign wanted to get one over on the Edwards campaign, no matter how small a factor it was in the decision, is what irritates people. My point was only that this is a legitimate opinion for people to have. It may be naive, as nctodc suggests, but I think it deserves a better response than simply "So?"

I also don't think I was clear in my previous post, so I should note that I'm not against Obama having a fundraiser in Chapel Hill (though, to answer nctodc's question about people who have expressed opposition to the location, it seems like scharrison would be critical of Edwards going to Hyde Park). If I were advising Obama and he asked me whether we should be in Chapel Hill, I'd have to quote that famous philosopher, Gretchen Wilson, "Hell yes." But that's because I'm a meanspirited s.o.b. I think it's great that people expect better from their candidates (indeed, as Blue points out, Obama has campaigned on this idea), and I don't think their opinions should be dismissed as lightly as I felt they were on this thread.

Who's Irritated?

The fact that the Obama campaign wanted to get one over on the Edwards campaign, no matter how small a factor it was in the decision, is what irritates people.

Seriously.

I'm a big Edwards fan ... all the way back to when it should have said, 'Edwards/Kerry' but I digress...

Not quite

I'm sorry, but nobody here has explained why Obama would specifically want to come to Chapel Hill. I think location might have been a factor ... against him coming, or a factor in that it puts Greensboro less than an hour away. He doesn't gain anything by going specifically to Chapel Hill! Actually, it might be bad, because someone in the media could speculate that the Obama campaign is treating Edwards as a legitimate opponent, when it might be better for Obama to continue with Hillary in "Operation Ignore." I think that Chapel Hill is a factor, but there is no evidence of malicious political calculation here. Obama thinks he already has the moral high ground over Edwards, and he's not going to jeopardize it with petty things that make no difference.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Obama is coming to Chapel Hill

..........because deep, deep down in his heart he's always wanted to be a Tar Heel. :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree...

I think he gains by specifically coming to Chapel Hill. He gets to rub it in Edwards' face that he can come into Edwards' hometown and take away donors. I agree that money was an important concern, but I also think that the chance to make another campaign look bad was a reason for the location. I think that explanation is more plausible than the desire to be within an hour of Greensboro.

I also don't think coming into Chapel Hill risks legitimizing Edwards (or at least not to the degree that it offsets the positive from making the Edwards campaign look bad). Obama's strategy is different from Hillary's because she's the frontrunner. Her strategy rests on being seen as the inevitable candidate. Obama's not in the same boat, so the fear of making an opponent seem stronger by recognizing him is not as great. Different people can read it in different ways, though, and that's why I come here. I think the discussion is great.

I am curious about one thing you wrote, though. Since we don't have evidence of political calculation (malicious or otherwise), all we have to go on is Obama's actions. He decided to attend the fundraiser in Chapel Hill, and that (obviously) opens him up to speculation about whether he's going as a cheap shot. Hasn't he jeopardized the moral high ground just by attending?

Rubbing what in his face?

That isn't good for the campaign. He doesn't make Edwards look bad - you would need something public to make Edwards look bad. I think a few people here are reading way too much into this. Someone hosting a fundraiser for Obama says that Chapel Hill's liberal side is vibrant enough to support two candidates ... or it says that there's some big money people who gave to Edwards before Obama entered and stole the spot as Anti-Hillary #1.

Obama doesn't steal donors from Edwards, though they might share a few - most people who have enough to max out their donations have enough to play more than one side. Obama does hit up people in the Raleigh area who don't support Edwards, or who supported Edwards before Obama. Edwards doesn't have a monopoly on North Carolina.

As for attending a fundraiser, anything Obama does opens him up to speculation, but your argument, frankly, is crazy. Who stops doing something good for their campaign based on baseless, trivial speculation that doesn't hinder their campaign? And it looks bad for Obama if they decide to stay out of Chapel Hill, even if it's the best place for the fundraiser, because then the talking heads can say he's "afraid" Edwards. Seriously, think about it: if someone on the campaign says that Obama was offered a fundraiser in Chapel Hill, and that the campaign didn't accept because of John Edwards's 2-year residency, the story would be that the Obama campaign is crazy and doesn't know what they're doing. When you juxtapose the situation, you see the ridiculousness behind the argument that Obama is visiting for anything other than money. The only nefarious possibility here is that Obama may get the chance to speak to one of the Senate staffers, campaign workers, or 2004 donors who don't like Edwards anymore, and gain some insight into the man, but still, that's just politics. But the initial reactions about the Chapel Hill visit might not turn out to be the factually correct ones.

Again, if this were some sort of snub, Obama would beat Edwards in public, but he's not doing things like that. Would we even be having this conversation if Warner will still in the race, and this same fundraiser were held for Warner? Chapel Hill isn't Robbins, it isn't Seneca, it isn't Hope, or Little Rock, or Wilmington, DE, or Mike Gravel's floating island in Alaska. It's a major liberal stronghold with numerous wealthy residents in a state with a strong Democratic Party, and it's within said state's second largest metropolitan area. Maybe that's why Edwards moved there in the first place (yeah yeah yeah, I'm not forgetting about the Poverty Center, which still could have been somewhere else).

Back when I ran for county commissioner, my primary opponent (who is a good friend of mine) did a lot of GOTV in my home precinct. Did he do it to "snub" me? No. He was simply going after votes because he wanted to win. I had two poll workers at his home precinct not because of any contest, but to get the votes that I had in that precinct. This is a non-story

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Agreed.

n/t

Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

Well, it was a question, not an argument...

based on what you wrote. And it probably sounds crazy because that's not at all what I said.

We could go on and on like this forever, but I'm going to move to some more productive posting. Perhaps we'll agree on something else.

Real Politik

Will Obama make money from his reception? Absolutely. Was money the only purpose driving the decision to host the reception in Chapel Hill? Absolutely not. To suggest otherwise is entirely disingenuous.

I think the driving decision to host the reception in Chapel Hill was Dteve Lerner's hosting it and he lives in Chapel Hill (per the article quoted in the original post). Could he have had it at John Sall's mansion in Cary instead, since he's a co-host of the reception? Yeah probably so, but that's an issue to take up with Steve Lerner. I'm relatively certain that Obama's campaign had no hand in the site selection...and, my point is when the some of the richest people in the country call you (particularly those who could help you tap into the deep pockets of former Warner supporters) and say "hey, I'd like to hold a fundraiser for you," you don't waste time asking for a change of venue...you go where and usually when they ask you to go.

Would Obama supporters feel similarly irritated if Edwards went to Hyde Park? Probably so...and you know what I'd tell them...they're being naïve. I'd say, this is politics and you [the candidate] go where the money is. And I'd ask how the hell did Obama let a Democrat in his neighborhood, who had $2,300+ to kick around, back someone else? Whatever the case, I wouldn't blame the visiting candidate. The question I have is if you, or any of the others who have expressed an opposition to this fundraiser in Chapel Hill, would be equally as critical of Edwards if he went to Hyde Park?

I'm not here to defend Barack Obama, really...admittedly, I like the guy a whole lot (I don't have $1k to say so, though), but it's not about him...I'm honestly defending real politik. It's not a great position to be in, but the Party's top tier has forgone public financing, so these are the kind of situations we're left with....so?

Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it. - Robert F. Kennedy

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There are people in every time and every land who want to stop history in its tracks. They fear the future, mistrust the present, and invoke the security of the comfortable past which, in fact, never existed. - Robert F. Kennedy

Realpolitik misused

It's really a foreign policy/IR term, not so much a Democratic primary politics term. Outside of IR, it describes Machiavellian actions ... and I don't think Obama is being Machiavellian. Which makes sense; Obama's contemporaries and co-workers in the Senate say, behind closed doors, that they can't find any real dirt on the guy.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

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