McCrory calls millions of North Carolinians "hypocrites"

I wish I was as smart as Dan Besse, who just wrote this excellent letter to the editor:

To the editor:

Pat McCrory has just called millions of North Carolinians "hypocrites".

According to the Raleigh News & Observer (6/30/08), McCrory said that anyone who drives daily and opposes drilling [off North Carolina's coast] is "hypocritical".

In McCrory's view, it doesn't matter whether you drive an efficient car or even a hybrid vehicle. He doesn't care whether you cut back on driving by taking the bus or a bike or a carpool where possible. To him, it makes no difference whether you already use ethanol or biodiesel in your vehicle, or actively support development of biofuels so that you can. It doesn't matter that you don't control where the oil companies drill for oil or from whom they buy it.

If you aren't willing to jeopardize our coast and our fisheries and tourism industries in order to increase Big Oil's profits, then McCrory says you're a hypocrite.

Pat McCrory owes an immediate apology to the people of North Carolina.

Thank you, Dan.

Comments

Poor Pat

Anyone who disagrees with McCrory's "drill till you drop" philosophy is a hypocrite? Wow. I knew the guy was arrogant, but this really takes the cake.

It plays to his base.

MPP is a little too slick for the rural voters, in my opinion. He doesn't look nor act like a helns republican and fred smith let everyone know that (BTW, that reminds me that moore hasn't appeared with perdue yet, shame on him). MPP has to somehow shrug off the eitist charlotte banker image he has and thowing out red meat is one way of doing it.

Expect lots of talk about new jobs, lower taxes, and tree-huggers.
----insert witty remark here----coming soon----

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Drill n' Spill

I prefer to call this offshore oil business "Drill n' Spill"

If this goes ahead as proposed we'll definitely earn the title "Tar Heels" when we stroll barefoot on the shore.

Shill n' Drill

That's what happens right before "Drill n' Spill." You do have an amazing way with words.

Most people who want to drill must never have walked on a beach where tar balls are like land mines. But that's only a smidgen of the problem. The fact that he wants to drill in one of the world's most important fisheries - a corridor where more than half the Atlantic coast species migrate through and spawn ... now that's just plain stupid.

Why are Republican's just so inherently stupid?

What does it take for an average person to understand that no matter how much drilling we do, the damage from oil products to our environment is nearing the point of no return and that we HAVE to put our time, money and effort into creating a new type of combustion?

I'm in awe of the stupidity....

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

North Carolina. Turning the South Blue!

Heard today

on NPR ...

Lt. Col. Brian Maka puts the Pentagon's fuel expenses in perspective. "Generally, a $1 increase in the price of a barrel of oil on the open market translates into an increase for the whole department of $130 million," Maka says.

I think with the budget mess W has thrown us all into (the next president -- and the American people -- will inherit a deficit of $1 Trillion within the next four years, thanks to George the Lesser) one thing we can hope for is a forward thinking Congress that pushes some specific funding into DARPA for accelerated research on near-term clean efficient fuel alternatives.

McCrory's call for Coastal drilling is such a huge useless bag of wind. It will do nothing to remedy the problem we have now, and it will only delay the advances we have GOT to make as a nation around mass-transit and alternative energy progess.

And while we're on the subject of huge useless bags of wind ... Skip, where is our dang train?

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

inherit a deficit

I'd hope that if you were spreading such a gloomy prediction that you'd at least do so with the disclaimer that the author of the article you link to is a maximum $ Obama supporter and angling for a cabinet post. Also, his opinion of the $1T deficit is for it to occur by the end of his presidency, which could/would be 8 years later. The article also assumes that there are no corrective actions taken with regards to spending and taxes. Get a life.

"A point in every direction is the same as no point at all" - Pointless Man

Angling for a cabinet post? :o

You mean like Sam Bodman?

But one of the President’s most outrageous decisions (besides naming Alberto Gonzales, who concocted a legal case for torturing foreign prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, Attorney General) has got to be choosing 66 year-old Sam Bodman to serve as Secretary of Energy. This is a guy who for a dozen years ran a Texas-based chemical company that spent years on the top five lists of the country’s worst polluters.

It’s not just a few clouds of smoke emanating from an oil refinery or a power plant that got Bodman’s old company, Boston-based Cabot Corporation, those accolades. It was the 54,000 tons of toxic emissions that his company’s refineries released into the air in the Lone Star state in 1997 alone that made Cabot the fourth largest source of toxic emissions in Texas. Cabot is the world’s largest producer of industrial carbon black, a byproduct of the oil refinery process.

You really, really don't want to open up this particular can of worms...

Angling for a cabinet post? :p

I think it's McCrory that was angling for a cabinet post. It's the prospect of an Obama Presidency that has propelled him out of the seat in his corner office into the other 99 counties in NC. He's already on record saying a mayor's job is the best because it has the most control. He doesn't want to be recorded in history as having been voted out of office so he has to run for something else. Now he's just an amplifier for the NC Republican platform.

Geesh. Calm down, Piper.

No need to get pissy. Let me do that for you.

I don't know who the heck Bill Gross is. You might be right about his aspirations, I don't know. But then, I don't really understand why you think that matters. Would our future fiscal picture be less gloomy if (for the sake of avoiding the obviously touchy subject of Republicans running up huge deficits and leaving them for Democrats to deal with) I had taken the $1 Trillion and cut it in half to say ... $500 Billion?

Would a $500 Billion deficit sometime in the next ten years be less gloomy and acceptable? How about $250 Billion. Oh, wait. We've already passed that number.

Help me here, Piper. Why are "fiscal" Republicans so willfully blind to the reality of America's current fiscal condition? That always seems so odd to me. Of course, if I were a betting woman, I'd bet my last dollar they'll all start yelping about the deficit again. Probably around 20 January, 2009.

It's equally interesting how you assert that we should be able to posit that the next White House administration will institute measures to successfully address the deficit. I guess you're assuming the next President won't be John McCain.

By the way, I appreciate the advice, Piper ... you know ... to get a life. But seriously, how old are you? Is that dismissive really still effective in your crowd?

P.S. I don't know who Lou Crandall is, either.

Edited to correct links

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

In fairness to McRory

I heard him on the radio this monring and he was calling hypcrites those in this state who favor off shore drilling but oppose North Carolina off shore drilling. I am not going to fault him for that, if we have offshore drilling NC will have to be part of it.

However, he was so condesending in his messgae that I think many people will not get his message and he has only himself to blame for it. Having lived a great portion of my life living in Greenville NC I can tell you if he does not change his ways he will lose. His message come accross as I am the mayor Charlotte and I know whats is best for you. This one reason why Charlotte politians do not play well in the east.

That is hypocritical.

You either support opening it up for all states or you believe "anywhere but my neighborhood", which is hypocritical.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

unless your neighborhood

is in fact geologically unique and more susceptible to damage from such operations than other areas would be (and happens to be located on one of the most dangerous stretches of coastline for shipping in the world.)

Just a thought

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

"Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." -Voltaire

His assertion was far more sweeping.

In his statement quoted on NPR this morning, I believe that I heard him say that anyone who drove to his news conference and opposed offshore drilling was hypocritical. Perhaps in some other comment that you heard, he is already trying to back and fill on this assertion. If so, he should be more cautious in his attacks--and he should still apologize to the public for an unjustifiable remark.

Can we get a tape or a transcript of his comments to examine?

Dan Besse

Dan Besse

what I heard was on WBT morning show

I did not hear the NPR interview, but I doubt he is going to apologize becasue in his mind he has done nothing wrong. He has a habbit of talking down to people, and while that may get you elected mayor of Charlotte it does not work in the rest of the state.

WBT?

WBT is hardly a source I would use for objective journalism. The only somewhat balanced announcer is John Hancock and sometimes I wonder about him.

Wake Forest won't play us anymore
Michigan last year
LSU - you are next
Go ASU!

I am a fan of Hancock myself

But this was a live interview on their morning show which I have always liked. And they do not fawn all over the mayor the way Bob Lacey a supposed Democrat does. Kieth Larson and Tara are no fans of the mayor and they make that opinion known every chance they get, and former host Jason Lewis had an outright hostile relationship with the mayor, it is only Jeff Katz who seems to be in good company with him.

Hypocritical?

Well, personally, I think McCrory gets around mainly by hot air, so I don't known why he's so gung ho about having oil rigs smack in the middle of hurricane alley and the Grave Yard of the Atlantic ... a.k.a. the NC coast.

I wonder ... does this man know that Rita and Katrina both damaged oil rigs and caused oil spills in the gulf? This is from a U.S. Coast Guard report to Congress:

As a result of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita there were six major, five medium, and over 5000 minor oil and hazmat responses. Additional minor spills continue to be identified and addressed. It is estimated that over 9 million gallons of oil was released, and this total does not include oil released from the 5000 minor spills. A detailed summary of these spills is provided on pages5-6.

If so, how has he decided that oil spills on the NC are acceptable losses? If not, how does someone that uninformed get to be the GOP Gubernatorial candidate?

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Why James, are you suggesting that

Pat McCrory doesn't give a flying flip about eastern NC or the coastal tourism, fishing or housing industries? Oh. My. God. That's it. Pat just doesn't care.

And here my naive mind just thought his support for putting drilling rigs off the coast of NC was due to his complete ignorance of what happens when you mix oil rigs and category 4-5 hurricanes. I apologize for assuming Pat was ignorant. My bad.

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

He's not ignorant

and he's sure not counting on votes in eastern NC, but he is almost certainly being heavily rewarded by some very deep pockets for making these comments about offshore drilling.

I think it was James who pointed out earlier somewhere that this is more about Duke and natural gas than it is oil (quite true), but most voters aren't going to read up on the issue.

What concerns me is a couple of comments I've heard from Democrats (!) who reacted positively to McCrory's statements, as though this measure would drop the cost of their gasoline. Yikes, folks. I was thinking of it in terms closer to the kiss of death for many hopes of a cleaner future.

I suspect McCrory will have to work on that condescension problem. If he is able to convince Perdue to a debate, he'll have to be careful, because it would be kind of hard not to seem condescending in contrast with Perdue's style of communicating.

Speaking of communicating, I can't bring myself to fault Moore for not endorsing Perdue. He doesn't want to stand up and say a bunch of things he doesn't mean, and he knows too much to talk himself into believing that "for the good of the party," Perdue should be elected.

I'm having a hard time talking myself into that one, too.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Perdue needs to raise awareness

about the damage to oil rigs and the massive oil spills caused by hurricanes Katrina and Rita on the gulf coast.

Whatever each of us thinks of Moore or Perdue, I think it's time for us to forget "for the good of the party" in the Governor's race. Can we, instead, start talking about "for the good of North Carolina?"

"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

For the good of North Carolina

I do think that's the point. And I do think that's why Moore won't endorse her.

As for the oil rigs, I am very appreciative that Perdue came out strongly agin' the offshore drilling concept, and hope that she'll stick with that.

The fact that McCrory was so quick to come out in FAVOR is a real concern, because it says he believes he had more to gain than to lose from taking that position. In fact, I'm afraid that he figured on gaining lots more.

The long term fallacy of drilling

The problem with Mayor Pat's plan is that long term it is not an answer. Depletion rates in mature fields means we are losing 4 million barrels a day per year. We need new alternatives to transportation fuels, now.

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"It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry Truman

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Wonder if this could be

a "macaca" moment for McCrory.

Sure seems that way

This sort of thing is a consequence of arrogance, in my view. The certainty that a politician knows he is right about everything is a quality we can well live without.

Ignore the Bush comparison. :)

Hard to ignore

when you invite Mr. 24% to a fundraiser.

...

I will never vote for him.