OK Larry didn't personally get me into a fight. And no it wasn't a real "fight".
But it was started by his bumper sticker I proudly display on my car.
And it was the Title Fight of the afternoon.
So as my girlfriend and I pull up in our VW's in Raleigh, we just picked her car up from the shop, and drove over to Six Forks for lunch, I get out of my car and a man walking to his looks at my car funny. He asks "So what district is he [Larry Kissell] running in?" I tell him the 8th and he asks against who? I said good ole Robin Hayes, knowing full well where this is going...
"Oh well I got something for you", the man says, and preceeds to give me a printed sheet of paper (and he had LOTS OF THESE) of the "Offical Crybaby Seal of the Democratic Party".
I looked at it like, "Are you kidding me? Didn't you guys run this into the ground in 2000?" He laughs and says, "yep and in 2002 and 2004 and we will this year."
So as my generation says...
"Oh, it is on like Donkey Kong."
After 30 minutes later, my girlfriend (love her to death) leaving and getting food ready for us from the sandwich shop, and us getting NO WHERE...I make my exit saying, "Don't worry bub my athiest g/f and I are going to get married, have lots of liberal babies, and all vote in 20 years." (A joke...ultra-liberal babies.)
He responds, "well see I don't really believe in all that God stuff sometimes anyways."
Oh there is another 10 mintues of my life I won't be getting back.
How can you be so behind GWB, not believe in God, and think the GOP is truly out to save the world for the betterment of all mankind?
The jist of the whole thing was him switching topics when I tried to bring up a fallacy of the Right, insults about how we, the Dems, "Can't read." "Are terrorist sympathizers..appeasers." " Hate Bush more than helping the country in Iraq and here." "And use blacks like the right uses evangelists for their votes." His whole argument was based on bashing Clinton/Gore, Katie Couric and Keith Olbermann, and the left as a whole. Then claiming all we do is critize. I said "What do you expect, we're the opposition party!? You're the ones who've had all the power for 6 years, name something thats gotten better!"
I seriously was trying to have a valid argument over the minimum wage, education, Iraq, and the economy. Sure all my facts were not all solid, some opinions more than others, and I mocked his ideal of stopping Saddam as some great thing.
But never insulted the whole GOP as a stereotype. I mean who the hell does that??
Not to mention this guys prideful boasting of Boooing John Edwards and Tim Robbins at a Hurricanes game. How can you be proud of yelling at people who have no power?
So all in all I just wanted to share that having a Larry Kissell bumper sticker in the heart of Raleigh...is totally frackin worth it!!
Besides being worn out and missing lunch of course.
Go Kissell, Go Shuler, Go Shelton, Go Miller. And don't forget about all of us fighting on the front when we send you all to DC!
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Awesome report, Yankee Blue
I'm so proud of you and your willingness to stand in the fire. Maybe this guy will think twice about being such an idiot having had this conversation with you.
You're certainly a better representative than I would have been. I'm afraid I would have said the same thing I said to my sister-in-law's boyfriend: "You're fucking crazy Irv. You know that? Nothing you're saying makes one damn bit of sense. So stop wasting my time with your bullshit."
Those of us in District Eight
LOVE YOU!!
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As someone who recently had an extended conversation with a covert racist about immigration reform, I can relate.
Spread the word!
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Now THAT would make a great bumper sticker!
Usually when they find out that you know what you're talking about, they change the subject or leave.
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.
Great story, Yank
Back in 2004, my wife had stopped at the post office with our John Kerry sticker. When she returned to the truck, an elederly man parked behind her said "John Kerry?? What are you a bunch of nazis?"
My wife politely smiled (okay, scowled) and came back to the house. I thought for hours about what I would have said had I been there. Finally I realized probably nothing.
So Bravo to you Yank for having the courage (and mind-numbing patience) to stand up to this kind of thing.
Those damn bumper stickers
I had a confrontation with a guy at a stop light who pulled up beside my window on his motorcycle and proceeded to ask me if I knew who the terrorists were...Hamas, al Qaeda, Hezbollah, etc. He was really angry...guess "Regime Change Begins at Home" got under his skin. I was somewhat intimidated and didn't know what to say. I told the guy that I did indeed know who the terrorists were and I had family in the Persian Gulf serving our country. He responded with, "Well, don't you know that George W. is fighting them over there so...blah,blah,blah." I smiled and shook my head. Then as the light turned green, he told me to tell my loved ones that he loved them. I'll never forget it. He was sincere and yet so misguided. Hard to fix that at a stoplight.
Conscious evolution, it's what turns me on. There's got to be a difference between right and wrong.-DTB
Hard to fix that, period.
But not impossible, I suppose. There's something fundamentally wrong with a mentality that drives a person (no pun intended) to aggressively challenge another person's political views at a traffic light.
I've had "Impeach Bush" on my bumper for four years.
Plus "We are being lied to."
Plus my wife's brake lights have "Stop" on one side and "Bush" on the other.
I like it
I like the brake idea.
Lyndon Helton for NC Senate
"Keep the Faith"
01.20.09
Bush's Last Day
Nearly drove off the road when I saw that one....So great!
Robin Hayes Hates Puppies
i can relate
i've gotten the finger from a few (presumably) taylor supporters regarding the shuler sticker on my car. classy, no?
speaking of taylor supporters, this happened to me the other day - i was heading back to asheville after work, and i got stuck in the right lane of i-26 behind a late-model black lincoln with one of those black & yellow "taylor - congress" stickers on the bumper. he was going 45 in a 60 zone. once there was a break in traffic, i passed him on the left.
there's an allegory in there somewhere.
"we're banging pots and pans / to make you understand / we're gonna bury you, man"
ScruHoo!