"But I've already had my baby!"

Renee Ellmers denounces maternity care coverage:

“Maternity coverage – that’s another one. … Should you have to pay for someone else’s [maternity care]? Maybe you’ve decided you’ve had your children, or maybe we have a 35-year-old female who’s had a hysterectomy. Should she have to pay maternity coverage? Maternity coverage is very costly,” Ellmers said to the paper.

That view echoes those of some congressional Republicans, including U.S. Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, who said at a Senate hearing last year: “I don't need maternity care and so requiring that to be in my insurance policy is something that I don't need and will make the policy more expensive.”

Off the record, Ellmers also said, "I don't have a heart, either. So, you know, me paying for cardio-vascular coverage is total bullshit."



I don't know about heart, but the woman is decidedly lacking in the brain department.

Maybe we shouldn't cover cancer either. It's costly too.

What a dumb bell.

this is what it means to be pro-life

Being pro-life typically means:

  • You oppose prenatal care You oppose government support for prenatal care programs
  • You would deny infants food via the food stamp program
  • You oppose any regulation of toxins in goods manufactured for infants and children
  • You think children irresponsible enough to choose low-income parents deserve second-rate schools
  • You applaud the bombing of Muslims
  • You think a fetus is fully endowed with inalienable rights, but farm workers are chattel at best
  • You're pissed that human trafficking made you late for work this morning
  • You think Jesus wants you to own a gun

The "sanctity of human life" carries no consequences for these people - the pro-life movement has become a death cult obsessed with the afterlife and unconcerned with the lives of their neighbors.

Little would do more to help America than a truly pro-life movement, faith based or otherwise.

oppose prenatal care

Sorry - I meant "oppose government support for prenatal care programs"

Regarding food stamps, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malnutrition#United_States

In my mind use of the term pro-life connotes "promoting and protecting the sanctity of human life" - the movement that is commonly referred to by that term does not promote life; their leaders don't support the basest necessities of life (food) for those they claim to most want to protect (babies). To say nothing of the mother.

Wow. Elmers must be a Fred Smith protege.

She certainly is mirroring my former NC Senator's "values" pretty well.

By the Elmer's standard, then, breast cancer should not be required coverage for health insurance companies because half the American population is male and what are their chances of getting breast cancer?

And prostate cancer? pfft. fuggeddaboutit. Half the American population is female. How many of you ladies out there are worried about getting prostate cancer? See? We should not have to pay for your prostate cancer treatment. Nix that coverage.

OH! wait!!! there's more! How about appendectomies??? (sp)LOL If I've had my appendix out, should I be forced to pay for my niece's emergency appendectomy? Hell no.

And allergy meds. I don't have allergies and don't take allergy meds. Why should I pay for all y'all's faulty immune systems with all those costly doc office visits and epipens and asthma meds and arthritis and all ... which is your fault anyway I'm sure, somehow, because I don't have allergies so I don't see why you can't make yourself not have allergies either.

And treatment for depression???? oh, don't even get me started ...

... in case anyone takes me seriously ...

[As an aside, my former Senator once told a couple who's home was under process of seizure to pay medical bills (they HAD insurance but the hospital bills went well over the $1mill lifetime limit on their policy) that were he (the good Senator) in their (the hardworking, middle-class, Republican couple) shoes, he would pay the hospital bill. He was wealthy. That's why he busted his ass to become wealthy. (The implication, of course, being that their situation was, in the final analysis, their own fault for not being wealthy enough to pay their million dollar bills.) The good Senator told them that he, therefore, had no intention of helping introduce a bill or supporting any bill in the NC Legislature that would protect the only thing this couple had left -- their home -- that they had literally built themselves and owed no mortgage on. Charming, no?]

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Maternity Coverage

We have individual coverage from BCBS. A few years back, when we decided to have a child, I looked at adding maternity coverage to our plan. I don't recall the exact number, but adding the coverage would have nearly doubled our premium.

When I researched the average cost of a typical delivery and maternity stay in a hospital. It turned out that the cost of maternity coverage was a tad more than the average cost of the services. So, as long as they didn't have to do a cesarean, we'd actually come out ahead by self-insuring.

It turned out that we saved a good deal of money by not buying the coverage. Even without maternity coverage, BCBS paid out on a great deal of the charges for my wife and their newly-born customer. As I recall, our final costs were perhaps $1,000 less than having the coverage for a year and would have been much less if my wife hadn't had the epidural.

So, I guess the point of my story is several fold:
-Maternity coverage is expensive
-Even if you don't have coverage, insurance pays for a lot of it anyway
-Since insurance pays for a lot of it anyway, you are still "subsidizing" someone who is pregnant even without specific maternity coverage.

We are doing everything we

We are doing everything we can to make sure Bob is reelected. It's all about turnout. Did you notice the TV ad that Bob is running based on Ellmer's statements in the Clayton paper about pre-existing conditions and maternity coverage? Bob, unlike some others is not running away from his vote on Health Care coverage. He is defending it and turning it around on this Tea Bagger. It will definitely be a close race but I have to believe he will pull it out.

I'm a moderate Democrat.