Independent streak? Really?

The Sacramento Bee does a round-up of likely Republican losses this November, and includes Up Chuck Taylor among those at risk:

In Western North Carolina's mountainous 11th District, Republican Rep. Charles Taylor faces a strong challenge from Democrat Heath Shuler, a former quarterback at the local Swain County high school and later with the Washington Redskins.

Taylor has broken from the administration on two issues: trade and immigration.

He's opposed Bush's free-trade policies, even though what he called a mechanical snafu kept his vote against the Central American Free Trade Agreement from being recorded.

On immigration, Taylor wrote the president last year pressing his own plan. Unlike Bush's proposal to give illegal immigrants who already are here a path to citizenship, Taylor would have them return to their native countries and apply for legal entrance.

"He's always had a strong independent streak," said Bill Sabo, a political scientist at the University of North Carolina-Asheville. "He's far more likely to try to tie his opponents to the national Democratic Party than to associate himself with national Republicans."

Sabo is quoted extensively in another article at, so he fancies himself an expert. But what's this crap about Taylor always having a "strong independent streak?" Independent of what? Sanity and reason?



Of course he'll try

to tie Shuler to the national Democratic Party instead of associate himself with national Republicans. What else would you expect from a do-nothing lapdog in a do-nothing Congress who has done nothing for his district?

Up Chuck is trying to run this race against Nancy Pelosi, but no matter how hard he works, he won't be able run away from his own stinking record.

Bad tactic

By trying to associate Shuler with the national Dems he automatically associates himself with the national Republicans. A smarter angle would be to keep the race local.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

Shuler is to Pelosi like...

McCain is to Vernon Robinson. Up Chuck (nice one, Anglico) can try his best to make that association, but when Shuler stumps and mails as a pro-God, pro-gun, pro-life Democrat from Labor Day forward, the people of Western NC will smell Taylor's lies.

Shuler is not my kind of Democrat in ideological terms except for one: he'll be a winning Democrat. Aside from the big W, there is not much Shuler will give to the Democratic party, except for being a +1 towards a majority. All of us must remember, though, that a majority in the House outweighs any negatives any Democrat may bring to the House floor.

I agree 100%

A pro-life, pro-God Dem is infinitely preferable to a pro-life Theocrat with an R beside his name. Whoever is in the majority gets to control the committees and the committee chairs.

All of us must remember, though, that a majority in the House outweighs any negatives any Democrat may bring to the House floor.


New dogma

First you fight.
Then, you win.
Then, you boot out the DINOs.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

Shuler's Cred

Heath Shuler wants a national health care system, quick action against global warming, labor laws that focus on the worker, and a fully funded public education system.

Those who get hung up on Shuler's social stances miss the forest for the trees. This guy is going to be voting for the things we all want to see happen, and he's not going to busy himself with abortion.

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it's funny

as much as bill sabo comes off as being a pro-taylor apologist whenever the citizen-times or wlos needs a good devil's-advocate soundbite, from what i understand he's quite progressive...

Don't know much about him.

My searching online suggested he's a pretty good guy. What's more, I give reporters more or less no credit for getting things exackly rite. So I'm assuming he's on the side of the Force (as opposed to the dark side).

I just don't understand his comment about independence. Maybe Up Chuck's got a wild streak on some issues, but he's been part of the warmonger right.

Anyway, apologies are probably due to the good professor for the dig. My bad.

PS What would be great is if progressive faculty members (assuming Sabo is one) would spend more time out on the Internets helping to shape public discourse. Grabbing their sound bites from the MSM is not very satisfying.

I see a blog entry about this topic in my future.

Has Taylor tried to call Shuler a carpetbagger yet?

Even though he's from Swain County originally (he even tells us where he grew up on his Web site), I'm surprised Taylor hasn't tried to hammer him for living out of state for a long time.

But if that's the best he can do--other than try to turn him into Nancy Pelosi--let's just say Congressman Heath Shuler (D-Bryson City) has a nice ring to it.

Taylor Independent as a Hemorrhoid

Taylor voted with Bush's position 85% of the time.

He voted with Tom Delay 94% of the time.

Even when he "voted" against CAFTA, he waited until he could be sure the law would pass even with his no "vote".

Bill Sabo always has something nice to say about Charles. And, having met the man, I can tell you he's not a Taylor sycophant. He's just wrong. Bill Sabo - Please stop being so wrong.

If someone agrees with someone else 85% of the time, there's really not a whole lot of daylight there.

Charles Taylor is

1) In it for the money
2) A Bush/Delay Republican Team Player
3) Willing to lie

Independent? Well, if you count starting up Russian Banks and funneling tens of millions of dollars to the ERC independent, then I guess so. Independently wealthy with some taxpayer help.

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