Help Request: Hammer Time

When I first started as Online Person for the NC Democratic Party, Anglico was nice enough to meet with me at his home. One of things he said that stuck with me was, loosely quoted: "It doesn't matter so much that you have the perfect message or theme to put out there, but that you stick with the same message, the same theme, the same set of values. Hammer away with that message, over and over, day after day, so people can have no doubt what you are saying."

I think this is a good idea. Particularly now that, to abuse a metaphor, the flip-flop is on the other foot. So what ideas should we, as Democrats, hammer away at?

Please post messages that you think will be the most effective at getting unaffiliated voters, conservative Democrats, and progressive Democrats out at the polls voting for Democrats this election cycle. Think strategically, if we get good people in office much needed reforms are possible. Thank you for pitching in.

Comments

Seriously

Jerimee is right on target with this.

Let's get a discussion going about what we need to be talking about. We have the ability to drive the message and BlueNC can be a critical part of that.

To get the discussion started, take a look at what the DNC put on the doorhangers they provided in support of the national canvass that is now underway:

Strong Leadership for America's Future
In the 2006 elections, Democrats worked to earn your vote. Now we're working across the country at every level to earn your trust. Together we are:
Restoring open government and ending the Republican culture of corruption
Changing course in Iraq, taking care of our troops on the battlefield and at home
Increasing the federal minimum wage
Making college more affordable
Enacting the 9/11 Commission recommendations, and keeping our communities safe
Making America energy independent

Of course we can be a part of it

However, you have to keep in mind that we are not an arm of the NCDP and sometimes have problems with hows/whats/whys of our party's politics. Engaging us will not shut us up. :) But...then....I know you know this already, Mark.



Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

they will have to

pry your gun soapbox/keyboard from your cold dead hands?

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

Believe me

I also sometimes have problems with the hows/whats/whys of our party's politics. In fact, that's a huge understatement.

And I have absolutely no intent to try to shut anyone up. I would absolutely love to hear what issues everyone thinks are worth pushing, regardless of their political viability.

Ultimately, whether an issue is effective at helping us win elections is part of the formula, but I'm more interested right now in hearing what it is that tugs at your heartstrings. What drives your passion and gives you the strength to speak out at a time when most of society is in a coma?

For me it's environmental issues. The energy independence thing from the DNC is part of it, but it's more about having respect for the planet.

my heart strings

Our complete abandoment of the idea that our economy should help everyone, and that hard work should be rewarded.

Why should people work hard at minimum wage jobs when Reagan and both Bushes have killed the American Dream?

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

Oops

I hit "reply" on the wrong comment. That was supposed to be a reply to you, SouthernDem.

speak up

Ah, but what y'all ought to realize is that, in our own special way, the party of the people works much harder to get people to speak up than to shut up. Quiet voters make for empty polls.

That's why these blogs are important, they give people a place where they can speak without fear of being made a fool of.

Government is not evil

The Right has been attacking government for 30 years. Its not just about defending it. Its providing real examples of why we have government.

If you are happy about Katrina, vote Republican
If you want bad roads and no public planning, vote Republican

Maybe not be so mean about it, but we need to stand for an idea. The idea that government can make peoples' lives better

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

The folks that brought you the weekend

The unions have this great slogan: "We're the people that brought you the weekend."

What would be a slogan like this that would illustrate that government is people cooperating, working together to achieve something they could never do alone? Building a road or a levee is a good example.

How about?

Want some help with that?

Vote Democrat.
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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Good one Lcloud!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

Want some help with that?

I love that!

The problem, of course, is that the GOP has done a good job of causing some folks to instantly say "No, mind your own business!" But many things are a public interest. When a child isn't getting medicine, I'm sorry Mr. GOP, but that's my business.

I just think about my neighbor,

who fits the description of "good ole boy" by anybody's stretch of the imagination. But if he sees you out in the yard moving something, or digging, or doing anything, he's the first one to come over and say "Want some help with that?"

To me, that's what it's about. He doesn't force help on anyone, but he's there, and willing to help. He's taught my geeky husband how to rebuild our fence and fix the drain so our garage doesn't flood. My geeky husband has helped him buy his first computer, and is teaching him how to draw the addition to his house that he is going to build.

We probably never would have been friends if we hadn't lived across the street from each other - but we do, and we are. We're neighbors. It's just like that.

And that's how I think about the country. We see it best in a time of crisis, like when Katrina hit. But it shows all the time, in little ways. And, mostly, the Democrats are the ones who share the "helping" values of your neighbors.

Does that make any sense?

It's community at it's best.

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Good Govt is Protecting Your Medicine Cabinet

A Democratic Govt is a Govt Of The People, For The People, By The People

A Democratic Govt is a Govt of all races, creeds and Religions, not just Rich White Men : )

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

Be an informed voter

Today was our graduation from the County Govt 101 Class. We met in the BOC chambers with the Commissioners. Each one of us, Dems and Reps alike have come away from this course with a much better idea of how our govt works and what it takes in both money and people to run. We had lunch with them and had a chance to chat, afterward was the commissioners meeting and graduation ceremonies. Moore County has just re-evaluated properties and there were a a few people there protesting the new numbers. My bet is that they have no clue how the govt works or what kinds of money and resources that are needed to do so.

More education #1, candidates and parties should put out more info on what they see wrong with govt and how they intend to fix it. I'd also like to know why a person would run for public office. It ain't for the money!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

I see it as a package,

the environment, health care, energy independence, peace and jobs are all so entwined that I can't seem to separate one as most important. Republicans are bankrupt on these issues that Americans need to be focused on.

I wish more people saw it this way

It is both a strength and a weakness that the Democratic party is the only organization that deals with these issues as intertwined. What are some key messages that address these issues as participating in one another?

We need a leader who can articulate

these things as a vision for the 21st century, someone who makes Americans excited and wanting to be engaged in making that vision of the future a reality. Kind of a WPA for this millennium

My themes:

Republicans suck.

That probably won't go over so well in attracting the cross-over vote . . . which is why I'll back up that theme with my big three:

Integrity

Competence

The common good

Republicans think they own the integrity issue here in North Carolina and they are dead wrong. They sit on their hands all day every day and say nary a word about about incredible corruption going on in the Bush Administration. Sure we had our problems with Jim Black, but the people calling loudest (and most effectively) for his scalp were Democrats and progressive activists. We cleaned up our own mess, even though it took awhile. Yet the Big Mess of the national GOP continues to overflow like a hog waste lagoon in hurricane season. And people like Pay McHenry, Bill Graham, Bob Orr and all the other Puppets seem to be completely oblivious.

Competence? The Republicans in North Carolina hate government and they hate planning. They subscribe to the Grover Norquist theory of governing, which is why they suck at it. And the few who do value government are trough-sloppers like Fred Smith who see in it only the chance to make a buck at taxpayer expense.

The common good? Republicans represent business interests like Art Pope who have a huge stake in perpetuating a big, poor underclass to work for next to nothing in their stores and on their farms. They wouldn't know the common good if it bit 'em in the butt.

Well, there is that.

Republicans suck.

I'll hug your elephant if you kiss my ass? :)

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

I like what's there so far.

I see nothing about Health Care. And that's a biggie for me, in all it's permutations. Personally, I think access to Health Care (including excellent mental health care) should be a right for every single American. Every single one. No exception. Even republicans. :-D (And I am unanimous in that.)

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Sloganizing is hard for me.

I am a woman of a lot of words.

But I will refer you to my husband's words below.

A healthy community is a productive community.

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

to me

that is understood in government actually being a good thing.

The yes we can attitude of the 30s that created the WPA should lead us to supporting things like UHC without hesitation.

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

Issues

These are the issues we got to deal with:

  • Iraq
  • Health Care
  • Enviroment
  • Corruption

These are ways of talking about them:

  • Let's take Peacemaking Seriously
  • Child Poverty
  • Transitioning to a Technology Economy
  • Fighting Voter Suppression: No Compromise on Civil Rights

I am going to disagree

I think that those issues are great, but your ways of talking about them are off, at least the middle two.

For Health Care/Child Poverty, this is a personal issue for me. I am a college student. I "pull my weight" in society. But there were several times in the last few years that I didn't have good health care. Why? Because my father is a gov't employee and I am not covered until graduation, only until I am 21! This is a real problem. Thus it really annoys me that we always try to solve the "child healthcare" problem. What about the rest of us. This plays into the Rethuglicans frame that those adults with out health care are some how to blame. Most of us are not, and I would rather play it safe and spend a little more than needed to make sure that people in this country do not die from curable ailments.

As to how we address the issue of environment, I do not think that

Transitioning to a Technology Economy

is the answer. We need to talk about transitioning to a local, post-carbon economy and where the major role of every level of gov't from federal on down is to prepare local economies for this transition. I think that there is a lot that can be done with this, and it might even begin to cut into the old "Main Street" Republican Vote, splitting them from the Corporatists plutocrats that mainly control the party.

Anyway, just my two cents.

CM

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The Great appear great because we are on our knees – Let Us Rise!
-- “Big Jim” Larkin

The Great appear great because we are on our knees – Let Us Rise!
-- “Big Jim” Larkin

I'm going to agree with CM

You've got some of the target issues, but the way of talking about them is not good. To be honest, the words you're using there turn me off, and you don't have to win my vote.

Let's take this one:

Iraq - Let's take Peacemaking Seriously

"Let's Take Peacemaking Seriously" sounds weak, almost passive. The mess in Iraq calls for something stronger than that. "We're Serious about Peace" is the same message, but is in a stronger "voice".

Health Care - Child Poverty

These are really two different, yet related issues. Health Care is for everyone; not just children. Child Poverty will not be solved by having good Health Care. Eliminating Child Poverty will not create Good Accessible Health Care for All Americans. Solving one issue will ease the other, but only solving both will ease both.

Enviroment - Transitioning to a Technology Economy

This is awful, sorry. I can hear my county party regulars rolling their eyes with this one -let alone the new voters we'd like to attract. How about: Wouldn't you like clean water to drink? Or Ending dependence on fossil fuels and foreign oil ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

Corruption - Fighting Voter Suppression: No Compromise on Civil Rights

Again, I think these might be two conflated, but related issues. With the recent Jim Black mess still fresh in NC voters minds, I'm not sure I'd want anything with NCDP on it and "corruption". I like No Compromise on Civil Rights with out the "Fighting Voter Suppression" part - it is actually stronger because it addresses more than just Voter Suppression - other issues that people might be concerned about, like privacy issues, etc.

Just my .02.

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Off the Top of my Head

Just Brainstorming...

----- Iraq

Peace Does Not Mean War

Peace never killed anybody.

National Guard means Guarding OUR Nation.

-----Health Care

Caring is how we ALL succeed.

A healthy community is a productive community.

-----Environment

Global Warming = Global WARNING

Think Globally, Act DAMNIT!

Your Children Deserve Better.

Play well with others - share the future.

-----Corruption

Accountability begins Today.

Honesty is free.

I Like These Two -

Accountability begins Today.

Honesty is free.

Re: Health Care. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the word

"Access"

I already have "access". I can walk into any clinic, ER, or hospital anywhere, any time. What I can't do is afford to stay for treatment. 'Access' is easy - it's the affordability that's hard.

I'm still waiting for the bills for my son's medical misadventures to come in - and guess what - that means my own routine examinations are on hold - AGAIN. (Or should I say, 'still'.)

Even if I had totally, 100% free health care for my child (which I don't) what good is it if his parent dies waiting for her own treatment?

Think about it.

Then you don't really have access.

Health Care. I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the word

"Access"

I already have "access". I can walk into any clinic, ER, or hospital anywhere, any time. What I can't do is afford to stay for treatment. 'Access' is easy - it's the affordability that's hard.

You can see it, but you can't access it. You can't use it, you can't access it. It is a language thing. Maybe we should say "usable" health care, instead.
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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Then I dont

get no hugs from my fellow activist! Thats a bad thing.

Shoot the docs, make health care affordable. OOO wait, thats kinda defeating also. Dang.

So where is the root cause of affordable health care? I know, shot the judges that allow rediculus settlements to be granted for operations, etc.

Gotta be able to shot someone somewhere? No, Dang.

Ok, then we should just work on this problem.

Insurance companies

are the ones to shoot.

Take them outa the pic and then lets talk free market.

Yeah,

I think the shooting thing is unwarranted here. :)

But I'd love to see the insurance companies out of the picture, but let's hold on to the doctors and other medicos. I'd love to see the medical professionals actually able to do their jobs without being second guessed by a joker in a suit with a clipboard. When are fortunate enough to have medical insurance, but have a chronic medical condition, it's a genuine pain in the patoot to have your doctor tell you about the treatment she wants you to have - you know, the new one that's been tested and approved, and is available, but the pencil pusher at the insurance company doesn't think that you actually need to use it more than 5 days a month, even though it's a condition that occurs every day of your life.

Priceless.

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

That might be better.

I hadn't thought of the word "access" being that frustrating until Unique brought it up. In my work, I talk about "affordable, accessible child care." We never separate the two words. Ever. I guess that's why to me "access" meant that it was affordable.

Damn semantics anyhow.

Coverage sounds so insurancey.

Health Care for Everyone. (And a chicken in every pot.)

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The Den
My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

Aside From Looking Funny On My Mac

This thread is an excellent idea and ought to be a good time. (though it looks like someone didn't close a tag, and the bottom third of the thread is in some strange font...)

Fun Slogans for Dems and Progressive Issues:

Mark Hufford is sexier than Ken Mehlman

Growth is our business

Health, Safety, Prosperity, Equality

A party for the other 99%

You know Jesus would have voted Democrat. You just know it.

Did you hear about the homosexual, the African-American, the Muslim, and the poor person who were invited to join the Republican party? That's because they weren't.

Democrats Believe in Science and freedom of religion.

Oprah/W. Clinton 2012

Democrats - We Don't Pee our Pants Every Time Someone Yells Terrorist

Damn - I could go on and on.

Thanks for the opportunity, Jerimee!

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Screwy, obviously the first one is the best

And you know I'm at my peak whilst bowling.

Ready for another trip to the lanes where Asheville's finest can ruminate on all the points of this thread. Let's calendarize.

Seriously, thanks to everyone for all the great input. Clearly we have a lot to talk about as a Party, but it's all about framing these days. This is a great start.

Now it's back to neatening up the abode as the DQ heads back eastward from her desert sojourn.

This comes from a friend

and its about a year old:

"Beware the violence of the Elephant. Embrace the peace of the Ass."

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

Was it My Tag

that didn't close and made this thing look so crazy?

I tried and tried to edit it - I couldn't get it to change

(so I went outside to play in the dirt).