Dole Does Something Right?

The Insider today has some news I hadn't seen on the OLF. Unfortunately, a subscription is required to read the whole story.

DOLE ON OLF: In a letter to Navy Secretary Donald Winter, U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole says the Navy may need to bring more than an outlying landing field to the state in order to sell the project to a community. Dole also said she will oppose efforts to put the practice jet landing field in any community that doesn't broadly support the project.

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Dole indicated disappointment that the Navy hadn't made more of an effort to speak with local officials prior to the announcement. "I cannot stress enough that broad local support for an OLF is essential, and I will oppose the Navy's efforts to acquire any site in North Carolina that fails to meet this standard," Dole wrote. She added that if there is a possibility for economic benefits beyond the handful of jobs generated by an OLF, the Navy should "address the matter directly and plan accordingly."

Sounds like a big-time flip flop, but I'm still glad to see it. After all, Dole and her buddy John Warner tried for years to jam an OLF down the throats of people in Washington County when there was not even a hint of broad local support, and less than no economic benefits.

That said, I don't trust her. Because if Liddy Dole remains true to her word, there will be NO outlying landing field in North Carolina whatsoever. No community will ever "broadly support" being raped by the US Navy.

Happy Friday.


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I read the headline of this post and thought:

She resigned??

::sigh:: Oh well. You're right, James. She's saying the right thing - now. But she isn't she one of the ones who made the back room deal in the first place? Or was she so out of the loop that she didn't even know what was being planned for her "home" state?


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Home!

That's funny.

I read a puff piece a couple of days ago about her being all giggly after walking around in some North Carolina towns while she was in the state "on vacation."

Unbelievable.

Of course, on the flip side....

(And I'm sorry, James, this will probably depress you...)

I think she'd be happy enough if all of Eastern NC is paved and turned into a military facility...

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Dole also said in a letter to Navy Secretary Donald Winter that the Navy should examine bringing more Navy assets to the state if the landing field winds up in North Carolina.

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See?

It just depends on the audience, and which aide wrote the piece they put in front of her.

I wonder if she even remembers what she says?


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You guys are a tough today.

You guys are a tough today. There seems to be some confusion over what Senator Dole's press release actually said. Here is the release - mark stephens

U.S. Senator Elizabeth Dole

United States Senate w Washington, DC 20510

News Release

Dole to Navy Secretary: Broad local support for an OLF is essential

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole today wrote to the Secretary of the Navy regarding the six new North Carolina sites it is considering for an outlying landing field (OLF). Dole expressed her dismay that the Navy apparently did not consult with local officials in potentially affected communities prior to announcing the six potential sites, and she said that she will not support the Navy’s efforts to acquire any site where the local population is generally opposed.

Below are excerpts from Dole’s letter:

“Some North Carolinians support such a facility in our state, but it must be located at a site that is generally acceptable to the local population. I was hopeful that the Navy had learned from past mistakes and that this was the course the service was taking in its selection of six new North Carolina sites.”

“Based on my office’s outreach to many elected leaders in the potentially affected communities, however, it appears that little if any effort was made to confer with local officials during the latest OLF site search.”

“Considering the imperfect training environment around NAS Oceana, coupled with the challenges of locating an OLF in North Carolina, it may be time to discuss the possibility of locating more than an OLF in our state. In short, if there is a potential for economic benefits beyond the small number of jobs associated with an OLF, the Navy should address the matter directly and plan accordingly.”

“I cannot stress enough that broad local support for an OLF is essential, and I will oppose the Navy’s efforts to acquire any site in North Carolina that fails to meet this standard.”

Tough?

Maybe.

I appreciate you posting the entire release, but it doesn't diminish my skepticism. Of course, it does help that we're in the election cycle. There's nothing like the good old voting booth to help politicians get their heads on straight.

How DID she act before election season?


Senator Dole with NC Veteran
Senator Dole meets a North Carolina veteran during the celebration of the World War II Memorial dedication.
From Elizabeth Dole's Senate page

In a recent press release Elizabeth Dole made much out of NCs military population. Dole pointed out that Eastern NC is home to Seymour Johnson and Pope Air Force Bases, Fort Bragg, Camp Lejeune, ... Marine Corp Air Station Cherry Point, [and] the Naval Depot. As such Senator Dole believes that Congress should consider expansion, not closure in NC.

Wow, that would be great. It is nice to see how much our Senator appreciates the military. But, wait. Does she? Let's see. She supports more troops in NC, she supports sending them off to war, she supports back-door drafts, but does she support the troops?

No.

Elizabeth Dole voted AGAIN not to increase funding for injured soldiers returning from war.

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Keep your friends close...

and Mark Stephens closer.

Mark Stephens, Principal: Mark Stephens has advised Republican candidates and organizations for the past 25 years. Since 1980, there have been 7 successful Republican U.S. Senate races in North Carolina and Mr. Stephens has had a leadership role in 6 of those races - including Senator Jesse Helms, Senator John East, Senator Lauch Faircloth and Senator Richard Burr. In 2002, Mr. Stephens joined Elizabeth Dole's team to serve as campaign manager for her successful U.S. Senate bid.

Mr. Stephens has taken a leave of absence from the firm to serve as Executive Director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee in Washington, DC. Mr. Stephens will serve in this capacity during Senator Dole's tenure as Chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee and will return to Fetzer Stephens after the 2006 election cycle. The NRSC employs 60 people, has a biannual budget in excess of $100 million and is tasked with recruiting, electing and re-electing Republicans to the U.S. Senate. Since his time in Washington, Mr. Stephens has been named one of the Top 50 Movers and Shakers on Capitol Hill by Roll Call Magazine.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Another part of her letter

wants the Navy to define the viability of Oceana. If it cannot do the job, then it might be time to discuss the possibility of more then just an OLF in NC.

I still would be opposed to a master jet base in the region. I do not feel this is the direction for our community. However, I would listen to the community, and if the people overwhelming wanted it, I would follow the process insuring we did not get screwed. At some point I would make a determination to continue living in the county, or moving.

I support the OLF and a larger mega-base.

Either one of these will result in more federal dollars coming to North Carolina, more jobs, more people paying taxes. In the end, that means less dollars out of my wallet - and that is all I care about in this world - how much is it going to cost me.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Go for it!

You are right, it will bring more dollars to your community. less dollars out of your pocket! You have the option of selling your community to this process if the option is presented. The amount of money available just might be enough for a community to truly want this.

I do not see any sarcasm with this, I see a decision being made based on the impact of the community. In this case, the dollars available, a viable qualifier for a decision.

:)

This whole lack of long range thinking

on the part of the Bushies is really starting to bother me.

1. Carriers are anachronistic, big, fat targets that cost billions and can be sunk by a few well placed Exocets or Silkworms.

2. The future of combat aviation likely will be carried by rpv's and robotic aircraft that won't need to practice landings as a matter of routine.

3. Sub launched cruise missiles can hit any target in the world. We don't need a holdover (read, status symbol) from WW2 to project force.

4. Fighting the last war makes winning future wars rather difficult. Just ask the French.

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very interesting thoughts

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Thank you. I guess my main point is that

carriers are at their nadir. In a sensible future, their role should be diminished; therefore current facilities should be adequate. No expansion or new base is needed.

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Carriers will need to be part of our arsenal for a while

In a sensible future, their role should be diminished

With countries like North Korea and Iran out there also that small country of China the world is not going to be sensible for any time soon. So long as bush is not allowed to start anymore wars we will be ok.

With that being said, our carrier force is probably at its nadir. The global posture should require keeping at this level for many years to come. The capacity is current, no expansion or new bases are required.

I truly do not see these behemoths being removed from our inventory. Having a carrier strike force in international waters 12 miles from your busiest port is not something you want if your saber rattling. Having 60+ aircraft 150 miles away with the capability of overflights of your country is disquieting if you have hostile intentions toward the US or our allies. Not many countries have 60+ state of the art aircraft that can go up against those F/A-18 with the support of the E-2 performing intercept vectoring. It is really disquieting to know that 2 more carriers are moving in your direction with 120+ aircraft to help the one outside your port. If you do have the capabilities to take on all that, guess we can let the Air Force start up some flights to the region. B-52s are impressive when carpet bombing.

Attacking one of those behemoths is not a smart idea. Even wacko folks will think twice about trying to get a carrier or three.

All it will take is a battery of silkworms

fired by a rogue organization or a bunch of wacko's on a couple speed boat armed with the new exocets to expose the carriers' weakness. There won't any country to retaliate against or to be impressed by the carrier group offshore. Kamikazes in numbers were effective against our navy in the Pacific. Just think what a suicide su-27 or even an obsolete, yet still mach-3, mig-21 could do to a carrier. Instead of a vest they wear a jet fighter. The game has changed.

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fortunately for us

rogue or wackos just wont have the true ability to fire these things off effectively. Most are land launched today. The wackos will have to be on a country to fire it. They have a minimal range, less then the 80km. Only when transiting the straights of hormoez are the carriers in direct peril of these missiles.

If they are fired at a carrier, they will be fired from the Iranian land based site. Ergo, Iran attacked sovereign soil of the United States in international waters. Iran will have declared war on the United States. Transiting international waters is not a hostile act and does not warrant a nation to attack. Iran has the capacity to make these weapons.

As much as many people in the US despise Iran and the president of that country, he was able to walk the streets of New York City unopposed, because NYC is the home of the UN. We established that we would host the UN because we were one of the few countries that are "big" enough to even allow someone we despise on our lands and would not imprison him. The straights of Hormoez are the same. Anyone can transit them.

Fortunately the United States Navy goes out and into hot spots knowing these threats are out there and are vigilant for these threats.

Kamikazes in numbers were effective against our navy in the Pacific.

Against a carrier, the terrorists do not have even an ineffective kamikaze force to come at it in numbers.

To have an effective kamikaze force needed to get our behemoths it will require a state sponsored organization.

No state is willing to take on such an endeavor.

I agree that a country would be

foolish to take on a carrier battle group overtly, rogue orgaizations could well be financed surreptitiously and acquire missiles which it seems are more potent than I realized. The Silkworm has been superceded by the Yingji which has a range up to 200km.
I haven't even mentioned torpedos, explosive laden Boghammers, submarines and variations on the Kaiten.
Before 9-11 who'd have thought that planes would take down the WTC ?
I guess we could go back and forth with our suppositions. Here's hoping that this point of contention is never resolved. Cheers.

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