Civitas = Fox News. Say No To Both.

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I'm sure Heath Shuler thinks he's doing the decent thing by appearing at a Civitas Conference featuring some of the most rabid right-wingnuts in the country, so it's up to us to educate him about what's really going on. I found the news Under the Dome

The Civitas Institute, the Raleigh-based think tank, will have a crowd of prominent speakers at its Conservative Leadership Conferee, which will be held April 27 and 28 in downtown Raleigh.

Presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani will open the conference. Other speakers include U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, former Maryland Gov. Bob Ehrlich, former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, and U.S. Reps. Virginia Foxx, Patrick McHenry and Health Shuler (a Democrat). The three GOP candidates for governor -- Bill Graham, Bob Orr and Fred Smith -- will speak. So will conservative activists Grover Norquist and Richard Viguerie.

Civitas is a "think tank" like George Bush is a competent president. They both twist reality to achieve their ideological agendas without any concern for integrity and the truth.

It's one thing for a serial adulterer and cross-dresser to show up on their vaunted stage, but it's another thing altogether for a good Democrat like Heath Shuler to grant these lunatics the honor of his presence. Civitas is the Fox News of North Carolina.

All across the nation, Democratic presidential candidates have wisely declined to participate in events sponsored by Fox News. Democratic Congressman should similarly decline to participate in events sponsored by Civitas. This organization stands against virtually everything Heath Shuler represents in terms of responsible governance and excellence in public service. They produce wildly biased polls on a regular basis. And their status as a non-profit organization deserves careful scrutiny by federal regulators. Indeed, Heath's appearance there will simply bolster their claims that they are not purely partisan Republicans.

Please call on Heath Shuler to withdraw from participation in this right-wing propaganda party.
You can reach him at info@heathshuler.com

Heath does a good job voting his conscience on bills. But he has no business bringing the honor of his office to legitimize an organization that is laser-focused on destroying most of what he stands for.

Heath Shuler should say no to Civitas. Otherwise, he'll end up sharing the stage with this embarrassing candidate for president.

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Contact Heath today.

And please spread the word out in Hooligan land.

I sent a note

I supported Schuler, blogged about how he needs to be elected and gave money. But Schuler is a puzzler.

Maybe it is my imagination, but are we arm-twisting him into progressive action - oar at least not being obstructionist?

I totally know he is better than the alternative, but I have this nagging feeling.

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Powder that dang Blue Tick Hound Heath?

f he shows . . . AND PLEASE WRITE TO HIM AND ENCOURAGE HIM NOT TO . . . it will be the typical white boys club bullshit with people grippin' and grinnin' as though they're all best friends.

No good can come of this.* A

You got that right! Heath should know better as a UT grad. If you are a UT Blue tick hound and you laid down with a Pope poo hound. You will come up with a pack of Hood ticks and scratching yourself to death forever in Republican Pope endless political circles.

Excellent Max

and given you're name, I'm assuming you know more than enough 'bout dogs to give ol' Heath a lesson or two.

But! But! You don't understand I am really a nice racist?

and given you're name, I'm assuming you know more than enough 'bout dogs to give ol' Heath a lesson or two.*A

Yep! Knowing that pack of Pope hounds and where all of the rabbits are buried, I can assure you Heath will learn that a Blue Dog democrat is not going to Quarterback sneak into the Pope Dog house.

Right now! The Pope machine is sparing no expense to corner the market in State politics. You got the phony Blogging conservative conference in Greensboro with the same ole players of neo-conservatism being the puppets and the waterboys on the net and now this new effort to sucker in Heath. I have told my Liberal friends time after time, unless you expose the Pope connections in this state, you will never beat the same old establishment politics of the religious right and the rich right as a nice democrat. You have done a great service to stay on the Pope machine ass A along with the rest here. It makes me sick that some progressive Liberal Democrats still think the Pope thugs are nice people and wouldn't hurt a flea in state politics. Pope is a clear and present danger to the source of liberty as George Bush is in this State.

You can bank on it with my last capture Alien lizard from the dark side of neo-con Republican politics.

What's wrong with

What's wrong with cross-dressing? I suppose it is not terribly "Presidential," but it's not that big of a deal.

Nothing' s wrong with it

unless you're trying to pass yourself off as a conservative, family values Republican.

Dang It!

The first Halloween costume I remember(1st grade) wearing was a Stormtrooper from Star Wars. Certainly being a clone warrior for the Empire and killing Jedi is not "family values." And I was just about to throw my hat in the ring as a right-winger...

If Shuler can dignify Civitas, more power to him

While I have no love for partisan "think tanks" like Civitas, you have to applaud the man for having the courage to carry our message into this less than supportive crowd. By attending, Shuler doesn't dignify Civitas, he dignifies us, the hard-working members of the Democratic party who are actively seeking positive change and good government.

And if Shuler has the power to single-handedly legitimize Civitas, then let's make a list of some other organizations he should visit.

Strongly disagree

Civitas is at risk of being in violation of rules around partisan activities. Shuler doesn't "dignify" them. He gives them cover.

This is like saying he could "dignify" Fox News by agreeing to being interviewed by them.

You have this wrong.

The only good thing that could come out of this

would be for Shuler to give them a "Shame on you" speech. Where he makes it clear that one need not be a republican and drink the kool-aid to be a conservative. That Medicaid is good for conservatives. That paying taxes is patriotic, because it pays for our military and our roads and our children's education. That you can support the troops but think our President is killing them needlessly.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Not likely

If he shows . . . AND PLEASE WRITE TO HIM AND ENCOURAGE HIM NOT TO . . . it will be the typical white boys club bullshit with people grippin' and grinnin' as though they're all best friends.

No good can come of this.

sigh...you're right.

One man with courage makes a majority.
- Andrew Jackson

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I wish I weren't

but I've been to too many similar events. Heath isn't one to take on a hostile room. It would be all jokes and apple pie - and Civitas will walk away with a credential they can hold up to stave off the IRS when they come a knocking.

Shuler's being played for a chump because he's such a nice guy.

exactly

If Heath goes it will be the first time that I have ever seen a Democrat speak at any of their events.

We need to be challenging their tax status, not having Democratic Congressman speak to them.

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

Civitas <> Fox

Civitas isn't the same type of organization as Fox.

Fox provides news, and can potentially be forced to act responsibly if we freeze them out.

Civitas, so far as I understand them, are paid to provide justification and political cover for Art Pope's regressive doctrines. Art Pope's people aren't going to change their shtick because we turn our nose up at them. Let's be critical of the bad policy they promote, but not chide Shuler for getting his message out on Pope's dime.

We need to focus our energy on winning good government. As of today's Supreme Court decision, women and doctors are now prohibited from to making some health care choices. If understand correctly, women will die because of this ruling. We need to keep our eye on the ball.

(being the noob I am, I replied to the wrong thread, sorry)

Not buying it.

We need to focus our energy on winning good government. As of today's Supreme Court decision, women and doctors are now prohibited from to making some health care choices. If understand correctly, women will die because of this ruling. We need to keep our eye on the ball./

This is absolutely right. And the people Heath will be wasting his breath on are the very same people who have fought like hell to get Dole and Burr into a Senate that confirmed Alito and Roberts. You have to connect the dots.

Heath won't change one mind in this cabal of right-wingers. Not one. They are the cream of the crud and their mission is a permanent Republican majority. His visit gives them nothing but credibility and cover.

He should not go to this event, and the NC Democratic Party should be taking the lead in asking him not to.

in 2004

no demographic group was more supportive of Bush than Fox viewers except Republicans.

I have been to a civitas luncheon. 95% of attendees werent Republicans. They were Republican Staffers. Heath might as well make a speech for the executive committee of the state republican party

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

wasting his breath

Agreed, he is not going to change their mind. I assume he is attending as a gesture of bi-partisanship, or because there is a larger audience than the GOP operatives that will make up the room.

I'm talking out of turn as I don't know the actual strategy behind this. But where I may be a bit naive, I doubt Shuler is.

The easier it is for us to reelect the good man, the more attention can be paid to ridding ourselves of the Senator from Washington DC.

You know -

This is honestly the first time I looked at their website - because it gets swampy enough in my backyard in the spring.

Civitas is a 501(c)(3) organization! (I know, none of you are surprised, but I assumed they were a 527, or something that was allowed to be political.)

Amazing. Simply amazing.

Of course it's up to Shuler where he goes and who he addresses, but I think he's making a mistake.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

yeah I know!

Five Oh One See Three! While hosting non-partisan workshops like "how to get conservatives elected."

See if you can find more examples of blatant political action being filed as purely charitable academic reflection.

And while you do, keep in mind that Gingrich sacked thousands of AmericaCorps workers because they were working too aggressively to benefit low-income communities, and Legal Aid Societies have long been prevented from helping the justice system to treat working class people with dignity.

Will Liddy show?

Interesting that Liddy Dole was too busy to attend the OLF meeting in Charlotte but can find time to attend the Civitas shindig. Says alot about her priorities.

Well said.

Liddy Dole has one and only one priority: Liddy Dole. Nothing else matters. Not North Carolina. Not the environment. Not thousands of troops being killed for nothing. Not a ballooning budget deficit. Not anything other than keeping her cushy job doing nothing in Washington, DC.

She'll show up at Civitas, for sure. She'll show up and suck up for all she's worth (which isn't much) because these people are her funding base. That's all she cares about.

Which is why it makes me sick to think Heath Shuler is going to join her on the stage. Sick to death.

A veteran US Congressman from North Carolina once told me he didn't think Liddy Dole would even recognize him if she walked into a room where he was the only one there.

She'll recognize Heath if he shows up, though. Because if he shows up, he's giving her credibility she doesn't deserve.

Thanks, Screwy

Been a rough day on the progressive front. This news about Shuler, the SCOTUS ruling, a bill in the General Assembly to restrict abortion rights. It just never stops.

Thanks for all you do.

April 28th. Opposite JJ. Uh, WTF???

Sorry. I think I'll skip the 'family values' freakshow and join the DEMOCRATS at Jefferson-Jackson.

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What an odd, odd, ODD, freaking BIZARRE move. Me being nice.

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And I Just Remembered

That this is the same weekend that Karl Rove is addressing the 11th district Republican Convention. Uncle Karl is bound to be at Civitas on Friday, then hit the Republican Convention.

What the hell?

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Sounds like

The Perfect ShitStorm

Anglico

Will you post this at Kos and MyDD?

Maybe wait until after we get some phone responses tomorrow... or just go for it...

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that place

is crazy right now.

but you might get a few extra phone calls and emails. its gonna be tough explaining civitas to people though.

Draft Brad Miller -- NC Sen ActBlue :::Liddy 44 Brad 33

"Keep the Faith"

Someone has to try

explaining civitas to people

As for Heath, gee.

I hate telling people what to do; my take would be to ask him why he's doing it. What does he hope to gain by it?

It doesn't sound like a good idea to me but maybe he has a rationale. T'would be interesting to hear it.

I read this article the other day. If it were me, I'd be asking the folks attending, 'What would make a life long Republican say something like this?':

"A pox on (Republicans) and their values," he wrote.

excellent point.

n/t

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

I was not able to send a note....I had to send a rambling letter

I just have trouble keeping things short.

Heath's heart is in the right place, I am sure, but those who invited him to the meeting have only an agenda to patronize him and use his presence as a tool to justify thier attacks upon our Democratic party as out of touch with society at large.

Heath may feel they share his values and wants to reach out. An admirable intention, if it were factual.

The fact is they do not share his values. The GOP are masters of usery and they will use Heath.

Heath should reconsider.

Marshall Adame
2014 U.S. Congress Candidate NC-03

Ya know, If we have to be the ones tweaking his brain cells

all the time, then somethings not right. There are conceivably 4 reasons he would speak at such a gathering. 1) He's going to do a "give 'em hell, Harry" speech and do us proud while being booed off the stage...2) He mistakenly believes he can influence these wingnuts with logic...or 3) He is totally naive 4) He isn't who we hoped.

Why don't we just sit back and find out?

SE NC Dems

Stan Bozarth