BREAKING AGAIN: John Edwards gets MORE Good News from SEIU


From NBC/NJ’s Tricia Miller

In addition to the local Iowa SEIU, nine other [state] local chapters will endorse Edwards, including California, which has more than 600,000-members, at an event in Iowa City later today, according to Democratic sources with knowledge of the endorsements. The others will be Washington (103,000 members), Michigan (70,000 members), Idaho (400 members), Montana (500 members), Minnesota (28,000 members), Ohio (22,000 members), West Virginia (4,000 members) and Oregon (46,000 members)

Consider this, Edwards has the Michigan SEIU, Steelworkers, and UMW working for him in Michigan, where the candidates will not campaign. He also was due to walk the picket line with the UAW strike recently.

From MSNBC first read:

At 5:30pm Monday ET in Iowa city, John Edwards will get SEIU-Iowa nod and the endorsement of other state affiliates, according to multiple sources. The endorsement, which the Edwards campaign refused to comment on, is key because it means that SEIU members and resources from other state organizations that endorse Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (think Illinois and New York SEIU chapters) cannot help their respective Iowa campaigns, according to SEIU rules.

This is more than just the endorsement of several states (CA is supposed to endorse him as well), it is important because of what it means for "boots on the ground" in those states. Note this important sentence:

it means that SEIU members and resources from other state organizations...cannot help their respective Iowa campaigns, according to SEIU rules.

That means the major labor organization will be doing grassroots work ONLY for Edwards in Iowa, California, and other states. Plus, the converse is trued, California SEIU gets to send ALL their members over the mountains and into Iowa for grassroots activism on the behalf of John Edwards and ONLY John Edwards. The streets will belong to John Edwards in Iowa and California.

If he gets the nod from Nevada, this is huge. Forget the spending limits, none of these groups activities will be counted against the caps. Add to that the UAW and UMWA who have "reendorsed" him after he took public money and I think this is good news.

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A major turning point for Edwards?

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No

This is expected. A turning point would be winning the Granite State. SEIU for Edwards is nowhere as big as say, IAFF for Dodd.

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It's a matter of perspective...

It means support and boots on the ground in Iowa. Iowa is important. Dodd is a really good guy....but endorsements aren't likely to carry him the distance. And more SEIU and other union endorsements for Edwards are on the way.

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I think Obama and Clinton might regret

blocking the endorsement from a group that overwhelmingly voted FOR Edwards (like 50+%). What if we have 40 state endorsements over the next three months? That's a lot of press, plus it might mobilize them more than a national endorsement.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
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The right is obviously afraid of him

they have started by accusing him of having an affair while on the campaign trail. Of course it was started by the same rag that brings you news of aliens from space and 900 lb babies being born. You've got it, the National Enquirer. Our own local newspaper has picked it up and mentions it here. David Warnoff the publisher is a Republican and even though this is below their usual level of news, I think that he is probably enjoying this.

After reading the article, one thing stands out, that the alleged affair was started when they both met in a bar. Now something tells me that Edwards doesn't go to bars alone while on the campaign trail. Does anyone else see a rovian attack here?

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The most vicious lies...

tie in enough truth to make them seem plausible. Rielle and Senator Edwards did meet at a bar/restaurant through a mutual friend. She pitched the idea of doing the Edwards "webisodes" that some of you might remember. He agreed, wanting people to see him behind the scenes, what a normal guy he is, yadda yadda. She did the videos, they were a big hit.
When the campaign started they were pulled because they were in violation of some campaign law or another now that he was an announced candidate.

That's pretty much it.

Oh, except for the fact that the publisher of the National Enquirer is a HUGE Hillary Clinton supporter.
One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I keep reading that Hillary is to blame

Because of a friend's partial ownership of the rag. Although I can't see that it's to her benefit if Edwards' campaign was damaged. I think it's a clever way to try to get at both of them. Except that it's not so clever because most people aren't buying it.

But I do love the videos (or webisodes) Hint to campaign: I would have gladly done something similar for free. I do adore that they show Edwards' informal chatty fun and a little bit silly side. I would like to see more of him this way.

And also, there's supposed to be a fourth one of him backstage at The Daily Show. I saw the first two minutes and then the video froze. Now, it 's not up. I really want to see that one. It was cute as hell.

 
News of the 10th district: See Pat Go Bye Bye,

If I were a dirty player on the Obama campaign

I would spread around the rumor that Hillary is spreading around a rumor about Edwards, and then put out a release that says starting NOW I'm going on the attack. At least one of those has happened.

(Just a gedanken experiment, I'm not accusing Obama of anything)

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I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

A lot of the background about the videos was written on HuffPo

in a bizarre insinuating way before the Nat. Enq. story broke and there was similar phrasing that connected the two supposedly separate stories.

Is Ariana an Obama gal? I can never keep up with what media outlet is backing whom . . .
 
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Ariana is an ex-Republican

She follows the money. I'm not a fan.

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Ariana thinks Hillary is a power crazy control freak bitch

Ariana is an ex-Republican

She follows the money. I'm not a fan.*Betsy Muse

She left the Republicans in 1997 after her gay republican husband blew 30 million bucks in a election bid to be Senator in California. She hook up with Bill Mahar to fund his first real time show on HBO after her gay husband pay out big bucks in the divore settlement. Ariana jump into the Gov race against the Terminator in 2002 and got beat after she expose Arnold's groping and touching issues with half the women in the world. You have to remember that Ariana is a true Greek women who will always have the bank account number of any Trojan gift horse.

Yes, she's an Obama person I think

but I hear the shill that wrote the story on HuffPo is tied to Hillary.* Stan

Naw! She claims to be a Ron Paul supporter like her friend Bill Mahar because of their strong libertarian beliefs on the war and civil liberties.

Yay for JRE

Screw the National Enquirer.

Yay for SEIU Iowa and California.

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And a wooh000!!! for JRE

Now the anti-JRE crowd is passing around a National Enquirer story? That just reeks of desperation.

The SEIU endorsements may be more significant than they appear on the surface. I don't know the particulars of SEIU rules myself, but I read in a dkos diary that the SEIU boots on the ground in Iowa and Cali are only the first part of the story.

The second part is that the IA and CA endorsements restrict other SEIU chapters in other states from working for the other candidates -- as an organized body. I don't know if I read that wrong or if the commenter knew what they were talking about.

Does anybody around blueNC know enough about endorsement rules to shed light on this issue?

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What I wrote above.

Now, no other SEIU state organization can work for Clinton or Obama in Iowa, only for Edwards. That means the CA chapter can go to Iowa and canvass for Edwards, it also means that only Edwards can be canvassed for in CA.
If he wins NV and SC endorsement, then it is huge.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

dOh... you're right ...

you did write that !!! :-P sorry, Robert P. :-}

...and that does make those IA & CA endorsements huge.

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Clarify

There's no SEIU presence in South Carolina...or organized labor in general, really. It's much like North Carolina in that way.

Also, I'm a little unclear on SEIU rules. Does anyone have a link with more background information?

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You're right about South Carolina.

But, here is the link for Nevada.

Iowa.

And, New Hampshire.

On, "the rule".

Instead of making a national endorsement, the union will let its locals make decisions state by state. And to ensure that there are no conflicts, once an SEIU local has chosen a candidate, the union's activists from that state will be barred from campaigning in states that have chosen someone else.

"Given the importance of this election, we are encouraging members and leaders to act on their passion for the candidates and get involved on a statewide basis," SEIU President Andy Stern said.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

So according to this....

CA SEIU members can work in Iowa for Edwards, but NY can't for Clinton, or only Iowa members can work at all? I think that it is the first, but the "rule" is none to clear.

Does anyone know the rules for unions endorsing in other primaries other than the Presidential. I mean could Purdue and Moore fight it out for endorsements in NC? Not that there is a really strong presence here, unfortunately, but it is an interesting question.

CM
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As examples.

CA endorses Edwards, IA endorses Edwards.

NY Endorses Clinton

CA can go to Iowa and work for Edwards.
NY cannot go to Iowa and work for Edwards.
IA cannot go to New York and work for Clinton.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Got It N/T

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The Great appear great because we are on our knees – Let Us Rise!
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