Another reason why it is important for allies of the GLBT community to show their support

I got a message from my brother this morning saying he was headed down for the National Equality March. He lives on Capitol Hill, is a good liberal and we have several gay cousins so I didn't give it much thought but then he said why he was going. You see, he is married to a wonderful woman who is half Black and Michael pointed out that not too long ago his marriage would have been illegal.


in past times...

...the democratic power structure might have said "support us on our issues and we'll support you on yours", but i think 2008 should have put an end to that.

the "gay-tm" was shut off, i'm told, near the beginning of summer, and i suspect democratic management would like to have some of that money back.

it is within obama's power to push doma or don't ask, don't tell...but that said, obama may not be willing to push the issue too hard if his own party won't back him up.

"...i feel that if a person can't communicate, the very least he can do is to shut up." --tom lehrer, january 1965

What is the take on Don't Ask in the military?

James is a graduate of the Naval Academy and served our country past that. It would be interesting to hear what he has to say when speaking to the Don't Ask - Don't tell policy.

James, what is your take on this?

DADT needs to end immediately

This is an instance where the men and women of the armed forces are far ahead of policy makers. They can handle it just fine.

Nations all around the world long ago abandoned policies that prevent gay citizens from serving in the military. The sky didn't fall, the world didn't end.

We can learn from them.

Unlike the United States most western militaries openly accept gays. Of the twenty-six countries with armed forces in NATO, more than twenty permit homosexuals to serve openly. Canada after an extensive study dropped its military ban on gays. Israel too allows gays and lesbians in its military. None of these armed forces have experienced the lack of cohesion and demoralization that some senior military officers claim would result if we allowed gays to openly serve. Ironically, as military recruitment becomes more difficult, the army is enlisting candidates with less education and more extensive criminal records -- but not accepting open and honest homosexuals.

Thanks for that, James

I am not sure about other country's military contingents. To me, we are not "other countries". But, in that regard, to hear that Israel accepts openly gay individuals to serve in their military says a lot. I have read the worries that heterosexuals are concerned that openly gay troops that have to bunk next to them and/or shower with heterosexuals will be nothing more than women in a man's body or conversely men in a woman's body causing sexual confrontations. If that has not occurred within the Israeli ranks, it stands to reason that it won't happen within the American ranks.

I say, let's just do the right thing and end this ludicrous discrimination. Like a notable right-wing talk show host recently said: "when a soldier is in a foxhole under fire, he/she won't take the time to ask what sexual orientation his fellow soldier is when needing him or her to protect their backside".

Time to get away from this. It is tough to see how any negatives could outweigh the positives here.

so we are discharging...

...some of our smartest people, including translators, at a time when we need them more than ever.

wanna know how bad that really is, in simple terms?

because of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, we are literally discharging...cunning linguists.


"...i feel that if a person can't communicate, the very least he can do is to shut up." --tom lehrer, january 1965


Fake to the right!

Very funny.

Don't ask or tell me about those Silver Spears and 300 Spartans?

Nothing new about using Gays in Warfare! And of course the greatest Gay military commander in Ancient History was Alexlander The Great

The Argyraspides (in Greek: Ἀργυράσπιδες), in English Silvershields, were a Gay division of the Macedonian army of Alexander the Great, who were so called because they carried shields covered with silver plates. They were picked men, and were commanded by Nicanor, the son of Parmenion, and were held in high honour by Alexander. They were hypaspists, having changed their name to the Argyraspides whilst in India under Alexander (Arr. Anab. 7.11.3). After the death of Alexander (323 BC) they followed Eumenes. They were veterans, and although most of them were over sixty, they were unvanquished due to their battle skills.

The 300 Spartans of Sparta were a elite fighting Special forces Gay unit and became a symbol of ancient Warfare history when they held 500 hundred thousand Persians at bay for a week.....