Another reason to vote for Jim: "Neal Stuns James Carville into silence"

Jim Neal was at the Young Democrats convention, where James Carville, frequent CNN guest and husband of Mary Matalin, a republican operative - was the "keynote" speaker. Neal called Carville out ...

"pamindurham" at Daily Kos writes:

Blue America-endorsed North Carolina U.S. Senate candidate Jim Neal was there as Mary Matalin’s husband got up to shill for Neal’s opponent and Chuck Schumer/DSCC-backed candidate State Senator Kay Hagan.

Ryan Teague Beckwith at The News & Observer's Under the Dome has the skinny on what happened, and there's a photo of it at Pamindurham's diary

At one point, Carville said that North Carolina has a great Senate candidate in Kay Hagan, noting that he had just spoken with her daughter, Carrie.

Neal, who is running against Hagan for the Democratic nomination, spoke out from the back of the room.

"We have primaries here in North Carolina. We don't have coronations," Neal said later.

He said Carville did not respond. "It was the first time I've ever seen him quiet," Neal said.

Comments

That's not a good reason

I like Jim Neal very, very much, and am glad to support him in this race against Hagan. I also appreciate that he stepped up and answered Carville's rather presumptuous remark (Carville's team clearly failed him here in their advance work).

But to try to convert Neal's retort into more than it was on the basis of Carville being a Clinton supporter (are you assuming that no Clinton supporters are voting for Neal?) and his being married to Matalin (and thus a "bad person?") is not what I'd call witty or applause worthy campaigning.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

the "coronation" comment& Carville calling Richardson "Judas"

There's something odd about Carville being married to a Rove operative. Matalin worked for Dick Cheney and raised money for Scooter Libby.

How could you live with someone like that unless you too were playing both sides against the middle?

(That's a rhetorical question).

Politics makes strange bedfellows

You'll get no argument from me that Matalin is wicked, wicked, wicked, but when it comes to matters of human attraction, I try not to be judgmental (I'm not very good at *not* being judgmental, but I try).

I don't think I could see my way clear sitting down with someone like Karl Rover (shudder), yet experience suggests there's room in this big ole world for a lot of different points of view. I may heartily dislike every one I've heard articulated by Matalin, but that doesn't mean that she's evil and that persons who fail to see this are themselves amoral or immoral.

Maybe the answer is that Carville is playing both sides against the middle. Dunno. But he certainly convinces me that he's in earnest when he speaks, and I could certainly see my way to sitting down with *him* over a beer or four.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

In my younger years

I'd have offered to have his children, even if he does look like a lizard.

(There, I said it. It had to come out eventually).

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

hahahaha!!!!

I'm sure you would have been very happy - you and all your lizard babies.

hee. I understand the sentiment. Smart men can do that to ya.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
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oh dear~

I dasn't submit my response to that on the blog!

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

ps

In my OP, I did not attack Carville for being a Clinton supporter, or at least I don't see an attack there.

My applause for Jim Neal is for his comment to Carville that caused Carville to go silent - that we have elections in NC, not coronations.

Neal did not make any comments about Carville supporting Clinton.

It seems that some people want to make Kay Hagen the Dem candidate via coronation is what I take from the two articles, the Kos blog and the N&R article.

You won't find that here.

I think that the support for the leading Senatorial candidates is mixed, with it leaning towards Neal. And no, you didn't attack Carville for anything. Even if he deserved it. >;)

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
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Did SO!

Dang well did!!!

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Well, yes, I think it did.

And yet I think I read you correctly.

Another time I recall seeing Carville look befuddled was on one of the guest spots he did on one of the blathering head shows during the Lewinsky crisis. I can't recall now what the zinger was, but I do remember him looking like he just got thwacked really hard upside the head. But in a way it kind of added to his credibility as a defender. That is, whatever goes on in his head or heart, he was definitely out there batting for a man he called his friend. I think he meant it.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

edited to remove "Clinton supporter" from the blog

as apparently it distracts from the point of the blog.

This reference to Carville's support of Clinton was in the DKOS blog, but not in the N&R blog.

I hope the point of the blog is clearer and that it is easier to read now.

dagnabbit

Now my reply appears above comment I was responding to! Oh well, never mind.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Quite an accomplishment

I've spent years watching Carville (as a sport, really) take on some of the best talkers on both sides of the aisle. I've never seen him speechless.

Go, Jim, go.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi
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I've seen him speechless all right

I've seen him speechless on multiple occasions when he and Matalin have appeared together for their dog-and-pony show.

I still love him, though.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

Carville's finest moment

From "The War Room"

He used to be a real hero of mine. I used to love it when he'd pop up occasionally on TV. I'd stop and watch and listen, no matter what he was talking about. I even used to do a spot-on Carville impression.

Then he became a pundit and stopped being any fun.

And let's not even start in on Stephanopoulus...