After dark

Updated with something more important than the gnats at NCFPC. Spread the word to your friends abroad.

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How come I can't reply to Betsy?

How come I can't reply to Betsy's latest blog post, the one about the NC Family Council and bullying?

I submit that if the "family" council doesn't want to be perceived as condoning bullying of GLBT youths, they should do something other than opposing legislation that calls out GLBT students as a protected class.

While as a general principle, I think specialized civil rights legislation should not be passed, there are and will be specific circumstances where it is needed. We're not a nation of scrupulously rational actors, and prejudice is real. Therefore the laws that "protect all teachers and students", even if they are on the books, may be selectively enforced.

This family council, if they want to be serious, can support some kind of hotline for bullied GLBT students to call and report incidents if they fear a tepid or hostile reaction from their school's administration. External attention from a pressure group with solid white-picket-fence family-values credentials and the ears of state legislators should be enough to motivate highly inertial school bureaucrats into enforcing their rules and policies against assault and harassment more evenhandedly.

I won't be holding my breath.

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recently transplanted from Indianapolis, IN to Durham, NC

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Garner, NC

I wouldn't recommend drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me. -- Hunter S. Thompson

Well, Dang!

You removed your challenge to find the meaning of "NCFPC" but I'd been thinking about it, and this morning in the shower it came to me:

Neo Cons Fooling the People of Carolina

Not bad, huh?

-- ge

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https://george.entenman.name

I believe they do

I submit that if the "family" council doesn't want to be perceived as condoning bullying of GLBT youths, they should do something other than opposing legislation that calls out GLBT students as a protected class.

want to be perceived as such, because it appeals to those extremists who are violently opposed to homosexuality. They just don't want to feel the backlash of being set aside as extremists by mainstream society. So they want to have their cake and eat it too, and we're letting them.

And I think Betsy just wanted to publish an apology and let it stand on its own, which is cool.

The level of discourse on this subject from Carter Wrenn

Over at his blog www.talkingaboutpolitics.com, Carter compares the problem with bullying to blonde jokes.

http://www2.talkingaboutpolitics.com/CommentDiscussionForum/tabid/59/ptid/412/threadid/908/forumtype...

(Scroll back to the second page and find the "Blonde Jokes" thread).

This is how opponents of the bill, NC Family Policy Council included, try to paint this issue.

A commenter shreds Carter and his argument.

 

That's right.

Betsy turned off comments so her apology would stand on its own. I have a long record of apologizing for writing stuff, even for stuff I've about people and organizations whose missions in life violate very principle I stand for. The NCFPC says they don't want any child to be bullied. I suspect that in some corner of their hearts that's true, but as someone wrote, their advocacy for discriminating against gays completely undermine whatever shallow beliefs they hold for the well-being of all children, to my knowledge.

The NCFPC asked for an apology and got it. What they seem unable to understand is that they've probably opened themselves up to a long war online. As I've often said, it's good to have an enemy - and NCFPC is as suitable as any organization I can think of.

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Jesus Swept, this December

Good

Does this mean than in this election Dems won't be challenging votes cast by our military personnel overseas?

LB, you know as well as

the rest of us that representatives from both parties engaged in a lot of questionable behavior during the Florida recount, and qualified voters from each party were denied their basic and lawful right to have their vote counted.

Do you really want to open this can of worms? Because the Republican Party spent a hell of a lot of money and time sweeping minorities off the rolls in Florida pre-election, and flying in "troops" to intimidate poll workers post-election.

You stole that election, but you ain't stealing this one, baby.