Flypaper Open Thread

Submitted by Lance on

I thought we were fighting them over there so we didn't have to fight them over here. What happened to that?

Matt Yglesias sez:

ADDICTED TO FAILURE. Bush says today's plots serve as a "stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists." If anything, it's a stark reminder of the reverse. A stark reminder that this isn't a "war" at all -- you don't foil a plot like this with armored personnel carriers and JDAMs. We're also not going to capture the capital city of "Islamic fascism" -- not Kabul, not Baghdad, not even Teheran and Damascus -- and force our adversaries to surrender.

Whaddya think?

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This President is Done

Submitted by Lance on

Slice him and serve him with cranberry sauce.

And

Submitted by Nancy Miller Martin on

you won't even have to ask for white meat. That's all that's there.

Lovex7

And you believed that "Over There; Over here"?

Submitted by Daddy-O on

Son, I think it's way past time that I sat you down and told you the truth. There is no Easter Bunny. There is no Tooth Fairy. And George W. is dumber than a sack of Walnuts!!!

You could ask for

Submitted by James on

yellow liver.

Ewwwww.

heh

Submitted by Leslie H on

before you can serve him, you gotta get him outta Dick Cheney's arse. Good luck with that!!

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

I think

Submitted by party_hack on

I would like to paraphrase Leo Strauss by paraphrasing a quote from a terrific movie that no one ever saw:

We can't kill Barbarosa. Barbarosa is what makes this family strong!

I was listening to CNN

Submitted by Betsy Muse on

and some terrorism expert from Scotland...sorry...was working on a piece for The Freedom Group wo didn't get details...said - and I kid you not - "This plot is real, not something made up by the police or politicians."

Hmmmmm - you think he's making fun of the last two "terrorist plots" the Bush administration tried to sell to the public?

Speaking of Freedom Group - there's a peace vigil on Saturday at 6pm at Freedom Park. I was invited to write an opinion piece for their site. Lance has already seen it, but I'd love more input....Freedom Group commentary this will be tranferred to the Freedom group web site a little later.


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Hmmm....don't know what happened...

Submitted by Betsy Muse on

and I can no longer edit my comments. It's actually a link to my site. It isn't at the Freedom group yet. Freedom Group Post See if this works.


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Ok...edit function is back, but not on my other post

Submitted by Betsy Muse on

I don't know what's going on....

Great news about the interview. I have a few coming up too.


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Once there's a reply on my comments

Submitted by James on

the edit function seems to disappear. It has always been this way for me. Or at least ever since I first noticed it.

:)

ditto.

Submitted by Robert P. on

n/t

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Feature, not a Bug (Though maybe a crappy feature)

Submitted by Lance on

On this system, the power to edit is the power to delete, and when you delete comments, their replies automatically get deleted, too. This is to prevent deletion after a comment has replies. At least, I think that's why it's like that. I'm looking around now and I'm not sure that there's a way to change this.

Feature

Submitted by gregflynn on

I now like the fact that you can't edit once there has been a response. If you can edit you can change the original comment to manipulate the meaning of the response. I prefer the back and forth dialogue with a virtual paper trail.

Do we have to bomb England

Submitted by surveyor on

they have a long history of terror. Let's not forget who burned Washington, DC in 1814. Looks like we have no choice but to invade.

Agreed.

Submitted by James on

We need to bomb England. And Canada while we're at it, just in case.

We should bomb foreign bottled water companies too. And Coca Cola distributors.

Hell, we might as well bomb Mexico. That would show them we're serious.

Please excuse my "Beautiful Mind" moment

Submitted by zongomonkey on

How about self-bombing bombs that bomb themselves bombing something else?

metabomb = (1 + xbomb)n

This will change everything!

oh my god

Submitted by Leslie H on

I followed the dkos link. That is so damn funny, I can't stop laughing ... I'm crying I'm laughing so hard.

P.S. I have not been smoking ANYTHING! But I did find that bottle of wine I was looking for the other day. :-D

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

It's time to bomb

Submitted by James on

wine bottles. They are WMDs. Especially chardonays. French.

It's time to bomb France.

When you bomb the whites,

Submitted by Leslie H on

do I get to keep all the reds?

red politics. bad.
red wine. good.

ok. yes.yes. bomb the chardonays!!

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Crush and press

Submitted by James on

the grapes first. Then bomb them.

That's just cruel

Submitted by Leslie H on

think of the cheese, man!!

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Boom

Submitted by James on

That was fun

Submitted by momoaizo on

Thanks Anglico

Should I Bomb Myself?

Submitted by Gordon Smith on

Let's see...

Oppose President Bush's War Policies...check
Believe in cooperation with allies...check
Oppose Torture and killing civilians...check

I must be a terrorist.

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The GOP spokesbots

Submitted by James on

were gearing up the Terra PR a full 24 hours before the public announcement of the arrests.

It's all a friggin' game to these people, a game to gain partisan advantage from scaring the hell out of American citizens. But we ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait till October. There will be more bullshit surprises timed to influence the November elections than we'll be able to keep up with.

The 11 missing Egyptians weren't enough

Submitted by WillR on

Yeah, notice the teaser to this mess started with the 11 missing Egyptian students. Drudge and company blathered on about the terrorist implications, but, of course, the end explanation was more prosaic (it appears, like thousands of other foreign nationals that go "missing", they were looking for jobs, relatives, girls, etc.)

I usually keep it local and try not to echo the meme of the moment but I thought Ze Frank was dead on with yesterday's analysis:

The strategy of terrorism is to use isolated acts of violence to instill fear and confusion into the population at large. A small number of people can incapacitate a society by leveraging our inability to understand risk.

London's police deputy commissioner Paul Stevenson said that the plot was "intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale." No, it is imaginable: between three and ten flights out of thousands would have resulted in the terrible loss of human life.

Bush today said this country is safer today than it was prior to 9/11. Personally, I don't think he knows. Whether we like it or not, terrorist attacks on Americans are now part of the global reality. They will continue to happen. Many places around the globe have had to deal with a similar reality for years. India, Ireland, England, Spain, Russia, to name a few. In many cases, these societies have pulled together and not allowed isolated acts of violence to tear at their fiber. Like disease and the forces of nature, it's a risk that we have to rationally come to terms with. The government's responsibility is to make sure that fear and terror are not disproportionate to the reality of the situation.

Today the President said, "This nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom to hurt our nation." Generalized statements like this which instill nebulous fear without specific information are exactly in line with the goals of terrorism.

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

Amen, Will.

Submitted by James on

n/t

The Strategy of terrorism

Submitted by momoaizo on

is to use isolated acts of violence to instill fear and confusion into the population at large. A small number of people can incapacitate a society by leveraging our inability to understand risk.

I agree Will, and this very statement could be used to describe the bush admin and their strategy!