Hey, look! Someone on the left gets it! Anyone willing to admit they were duped? Dr. Quigley's blog Comments Such an interesting video Much of what is being presented in the video provided by Dr. Quigley is correct no doubt. We must first realize that Obama has been power for a mere 8 months. He has stuck with business as usual in many ways as this video shows and he has kept a large number of defense personnel on board as well. Just how much "change" is being asked of Obama in his first few months in office. Bush had 8 years to put in place a very solid (inept as it may have been) government that will take time to eventually change. The hope is (and I am absolutely certain most of those that did vote for Obama feel this way) that changes will come incrementally and not in an "all-at-once" scenario. We must give the man a chance. We can't believe that what took decades to build can be torn down/changed in just a few months. Things in government have to have some order and I believe this is why some things aren't being changed right away. The Obama Grading Semester does ends at the end of year? We must first realize that Obama has been power for a mere 8 months* foxtrot True! From day one after the election results, The Republican Conservative looney movement started blasting Obama with the brither thing [ left over from the General election on a smaller scale], the bailout of the Banks by stimulus funds 1 [even though the Republican pricks voted for it], the ginning up of the Phony Tea Bag movement by the Republican leadership and the Fox network news Whore mouthpieces and finally the lies about the Soviet Style or French Revolutionary Safety Committee Death Panels issue to scare the crap out of the old people at the Town Hall meeting. When you run down the comments from the Conservative and Libertarian leadership movement they all follow the same pattern. Attack Obama as a Muslin communist, or whatever Sh## sticks to the wall. Only one former political leader has refuse to comment on Obama progress saying it was too early and it be a year before he said anything about it.......Former Governor Jesse Ventura has refuse to comment period about Obama progress..... Using words like wh*re and pr*cks hurts this site and in my opinion it needs to stop. It serves no purpose. Agreed Clean it up, Mad Town or else I'll finally join the crowd of those offended by your craziness. I've cleaned my own act up, for the most part. You can too. I mostly ignore Mad Town as harmless noise, interspersed with occasional insights. He's been around forever and most of us pay him little mind. New folks who don't have that history can be caught off-guard. Enough already, Max. Left overs In January 2008, even before the primaries, Australian journalist John Pilger, little known in the US, called Barack Obama a glossy Uncle Tom. Obama's election to office has hardly changed Pilger's opinion of him. Pilger's disdain for Obama is a subset of his perennial disdain for the US Presidency and of Pilger's prolific scorn for US democracy. Pilger's idea of a world leader is Hugo Chavez. This is a pathetic excuse for political commentary, a half-hearted, lazy and, ignorant attempt to incite. Pilgers "truth" I have no idea why anyone would think Pilger is a liberal let alone a Democrat. He has obvious disdain for the President. From the little bit of the background that can be seen in this video, we can't tell where he is speaking or for what forum but it looks like it may be for one of the seperatists groups. I totally agree with Gregflynn on this one, it is a pathetic excuse for political commentary. President Obama has done more good for this country in his few months of office than Bush did in 8 years. As a firm Obama supporter, I will withhold my judgment of his Presidency until he is in office at least a year. So far I'm not disappointed nor am I doubting my choice to vote for the President or to support him. Yeah... Wouldn't want reality to get in the way of your political loyalties. Rah rah! Go team! ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. What's your team Dr. Moreau? Balding old crazy white men looking for a platform? May I suggest the Island of Fox News? Red is his team color Completely agree with you Metatron. From all of his posts he is showing his favorite color to be red. He's just another one that doesn't realize that the majority rules and this time the majority chose President Obama and the Democrats to represent them. Of course Because being far more anti-war, anti-corporate welfare, and pro-civil liberties than anyone in the entire Obama administration makes me a Republican. That's their team color, right? Red? I just want to make sure, because the last time people were accusing each other of being "red" it wasn't so. He's just another one that doesn't realize that the majority rules and this time the majority chose President Obama and the Democrats to represent them. Apparently you're just another one that doesn't realize that the majority does not rule, because this is an oligarchy with the illusion of choice. The American people didn't choose Obama - the establishment gave us the choice of Obama and McCain (both of whom are proven corporate stooges). Aside from this fatal flaw in your logic, the rest of your statement is absurd. First of all, **** majority rule. Majority rule is minority oppression. There's nothing about having 51% agree with you that gives you any special right to do anything. 51% is just a number. It's only significant politically because it gives you the numbers to physically force your opponents to accept your rule, or, assuming the population has been sufficiently indoctrinated, it will cause them to hold the erroneous belief that you do indeed have the right to rule. Second, the majority of Americans did not vote for Obama. Most didn't vote for either one, either because they aren't allowed to vote, they aren't registered, or they didn't feel like voting for some (probably good) reason. It doesn't matter how you feel about non-voters, the fact is that a majority of Americans DID NOT vote for Obama. So I'm supposed to do what? Do as you do and pretend that Obama breaking his promises and continuing all the same policies of Bush is a good thing? Hah. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. I doubt you said the same about Bush Actually, you are completly incorrect in your statement that he has continued all of the same policies as Bush. As far as how I know what kind of man our President is, I know because my husband and I met him and spoke with him at some length about many issues. I have hope that we will finally have a chance to fix the many messes that the previous administration created, repair our economy, and for once actually have some semblance of equality in health care. As far as having hope in the President and his administration, I have not seen anything at all that would tell me that hope is unfounded or unwarranted. I don't know where you get the statement that the majority of Americans didn't vote for him considering we had the largest voter turnout that did in fact vote for him. Like everything else that you post, you have your blinders on, are only seeing and hearing what you want to, and you will never accept a differing opinion. You would rather insult anyone that disagrees with you. You are just another anti-Obama individual that has his own agenda and will ignore the truth and do whatever possible to disrupt intelligent conversation. You and I will never agree on this issue or, more than likely, any issue. Empty Rhetoric Actually, you are completly incorrect in your statement that he has continued all of the same policies as Bush. War in Iraq. War in Afghanistan. More troops in Afghanistan. Renditions. Lobbyists in the administration. Corporate handouts. Aggressive and Imperialist foreign policy (expanded bases in Columbia, training Georgian troops, threatening Iran, supporting Israeli apartheid, bombing Pakistan, provoking Russia with missile defense in Eastern Europe and expanding NATO, list goes on (Obama is a WAR CRIMINAL and should be tried right along side Bush, Cheney and the rest of the neocon slime)) Continuing the immoral and unconstitutional War on Drugs - won't even consider legalizing marijuana (and is a total hypocrite who should serve prison sentences for the drug laws he broke and now enforces as the chief executive). Goldman Sachs running the treasury. Again. Same terrible monetary policy. Even larger deficits than Bush. Accusing Americans of being domestic terrorists. Mandatory 'national service'. Expanded military budget. Created a new derivatives market for the rich investor class (Cap and Trade). Kept the Pentagon 'invisible government' intact. Kept Robert Gates as defense secretary. Appointed a former Monsanto lobbyist as senior advisor of food safety at the FDA (hahahaha). Refused to repeal Bush's executive orders which expanded presidential "emergency" powers to near-dictatorial levels. Giving millions to pharmacutical companies to create "swine flu" vaccines that I'm sure as hell not taking. Also helped fuel the hysteria over swine flu. Has not abolished the Department of Homeland Security. Threatened England in order to keep evidence of US torture concealed. Broke his promise to release torture photos. Voted for FISA. Voted for the PATRIOT Act. Voted for the bankout of Wall Street. The list is endless. As far as having hope in the President and his administration, I have not seen anything at all that would tell me that hope is unfounded or unwarranted. LOL I don't know where you get the statement that the majority of Americans didn't vote for him considering we had the largest voter turnout that did in fact vote for him. Less than 70 million people voted for Obama. The U.S. population is over 300 million. You do the math. Like everything else that you post, you have your blinders on, are only seeing and hearing what you want to, and you will never accept a differing opinion. Oh the irony. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. I think I get it now "Dr. Quigley", you stated "Continuing the immoral and unconstitutional War on Drugs - won't even consider legalizing marijuana" as one of the reasons that you hate President Obama. I get it now, you believe that drug use is a good thing and should be made legal. Now that explains a lot about your views expressed in your post. Outlawing drugs is not immoral nor unconstitutional. We have a moral imperative to protect our children and our society from illegal drugs that kill brain cells, dumb down our society, and cause accidents and injuries. But again, if you believe it is okay then that is your right, legalizing drugs will never happen because the rest of society understands that those drugs are bad for ones health and cause multiple negative effects. I could give you example after example of how wrong you are in everything that you stated but it would be wasting my time. Go on back to your pot sir, the rest of us sane and responsible individuals actually want to help the rest of our society. There are people on this site who support the war on drugs? Wow - this explains a lot. I get it now, you believe that drug use is a good thing and should be made legal. Has it ever occurred to you that you can support someone's right to do something that you disagree with? If you support the freedom of speech are you endorsing everything that is said by people exercising that freedom? Of course not. Just because I think that drugs should be legal doesn't mean I think people should do them. Unlike some people, I don't automatically assume that people should be arrested and locked in prison for doing something I disagree with. Outlawing drugs is not immoral nor unconstitutional. It's blatantly unconstitutional - there's absolutely no where in the Constitution where Congress is given the right to regulate drug use by citizens. In fact, they had to pass an amendment just to enact alcohol prohibition, in recognition of congress's limited powers. We have a moral imperative to protect our children and our society from illegal drugs that kill brain cells, dumb down our society, and cause accidents and injuries. No moral imperative grants you the right to interfere with what someone does in the privacy of their own home, that doesn't harm anyone else. Your drug war crusade (you're sounding a lot like a member of Reagan's 'moral majority', by the way) has caused more harm than drugs ever have - just like prohibition of alcohol. Should alcohol be outlawed again? Because it does more damage to society than any other drug, so where's your campaign to make it illegal? Don't you have a "moral imperative" to stop it's use? Can you even recognize the futility of drug prohibition? It fills up our prisons - and in the maximum security prisons, there are still drugs! Even if you turned our entire country into a maximum security prison (and the drug war has been pushing the police state in that direction), you still wouldn't get rid of drugs. The drug war gives the government an excuse to spy on and harass citizens, primarily minorities. legalizing drugs will never happen because the rest of society understands that those drugs are bad for ones health and cause multiple negative effects. Yea, drugs like alcohol and all the ones pumped out of big-pharma gleefully approved of by the FDA which, combined, make up a greater portion of abused and harmful drugs than any "narcotic". If what you say is true, that's just evidence of the sad state of society's ignorance and power of state propaganda. I could give you example after example of how wrong you are in everything that you stated but it would be wasting my time. Go on back to your pot sir, the rest of us sane and responsible individuals actually want to help the rest of our society. First of all, I'm the one pointing out how you are wrong, point by point. I'm the one that actually listed the policies of Obama that are nearly identical, if not worse, than Bush. You pick out one of those (the war on drugs) and try to defend it (even when it is probably the least defensible federal policy), and fail miserably by relying on trite sayings, appeals to emotion, and unsubstantiated claims. Second, the fact that you accuse me of using marijuana simply because I don't want people being jailed for using it is just childish and reveals a lot about your level of intellect. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. Drug use is not limited to the persons home Do NOT insult me again. As far as my intellect goes, well, I don't pretend to be a "doctor" and then promote or support drug use let alone any of the other crazy statements that you have made. I am intelligent enough to own two businesses, be a public speaker, write and publish articles in multiple forums (no-not blog) and for multiple audiences, to know the difference between reality and fantasy, and to make a very well informed and educated decision. As far as supporting the "war on drugs", yes, I do support keeping illegal drugs illegal. Most people do not just use the drugs and stay in their own house. They then go out and drive their car endangering themselves and everyone else around them. They use money to buy the drugs which should be used for things such as health care, food, housing, education, and providing for their family. The really bad drugs such as PCP and Cocaine cause the individual to feel invincible and then they go out and kill others or put themselves and others in danger. Plus drugs cause damage to the body and the mind. There are scientific and societal reasons why drugs are illegal. I am also intelligent enough to care about others and the future of our nation and our world, unlike those who are constantly bashing our President and his supporters. I enjoy bluenc and have met some really nice people here, the majority of folks here are very intelligent, caring, and informed individuals that will not fall for the tea baggers, deathers, birthers, and others that hate our President. I will not tolerate any more of your insulting me, Democrats, or the President. Again, we will never agree on issues so it is best if we stayed away from one another before I lose my temper. Insulting I don't know if Dr. Q., was trying to be insulting or not ... that's one of the problems with online conversations, especially from a person who is overtly antagonist most of the time. The rhetoric gets in the way of clarity and understanding. That said, I agree with DQ on the core issues. The War on Drugs is arguably the most failed of all federal public policies by any measure you choose to focus on. It is ineffective in producing the outcomes it was created to produce. It is a stupendous drain on resources. It has dangerous side effects, growing crime rates to be specific. It over-burdens a prison system that simply can't keep up with the number of convicts. There is no evidence anywhere to suggest it is a smart approach to dealing with the use of drugs. I was going to say something like that too but Dr. Q has a way of making a good argument sound like an insult so I don't like to agree with him even when I do. Insults? You insinuated that I was insane, irresponsible, and that I smoked 'pot' simply because I advocate an end to the war on drugs (a program that actually is insane and irresponsible). I would say that in doing so you insulted me, and that you did so in a childish manner. In fact, when I pointed out that your insults were childish and suggested a weak intellect, you simply got more angry, defensive and insulting (proving my point). You didn't respond to any of my substantive points (unconstitutional legal status of drug prohibition, the fact that drug prohibition doesn't work, the hypocrisy of supporting prohibition of marijuana and not alcohol, the right to privacy of non-violent adults, the rise of the police state and harassment of minorities that follows from drug prohibition, etc). Instead you just repeat the mantra that you support the president, that you don't like people who disagree with him, the democrats, or his supporters, and that you don't actually want to discuss the issues because, according to you, we will never agree. Well I actually have an open mind, and am more than willing to change my opinions if reason to do so becomes apparent. Perhaps that is not true for you, in which case you are probably right that we would never agree on anything, which would be a great reason for you to stop replying to me since you're apparently about to blow a gasket. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. Dr. Q, you are a valuable member of our community but the way you present your opinion is often combative and insulting. As intelligent as you come across it just seems that you could moderate your tone a bit. None of us here is right all the time and many of us have learned a great deal from each other, (I know I have). Your input here is valuable but you often leave a bad taste. Won't you please try working on presentation? Jump all over me if you wish, I just want you to know that too often I ignore what you have to say because of your delivery. Bad for you because you're being ignored, bad for me because I have probably missed an important point. My team I don't have a team, and I certainly don't waste my money on television, so I wouldn't be able to join the "Fox News Island" even if I wanted to. As I've said before, the worst thing Fox News ever did was make CNN look like a credible source of information. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. See, you agree with me! It's all relative. You and I are extremists. We make everyone else look reasonable by comparison. Somebody's gotta do it. As always! haha I love extremists of all flavors, except for the extreme moderates. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh those people-pleasers! ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. Reality of need for Health Care Reform & supporting President You are showing your true colors here, more red than blue. I have lived through the reality of having Bush and his supporters in power for 8 years and am extremely glad that the nightmare is over and now we have to rebuild our economy and fix the messes they made. You may not agree with the President in all aspects but take your blinders off and you will see that President Obama has done more good for this country in the few months that he has been in office than Bush and the Repugs did in 8 years! I agree. Obama has worked harder than any President before him Our President has worked harder in his first few months in office than any President in my lifetime. It is a shame that he had to step in to the huge mess that was made by Bush. Had Obama been on the scene sooner, many of the crisis that we face today may have been stopped before being allowed to spin out of control. He would have been more proactive. Bush left office with this country circling the drain. ke851 is right....it was a nightmare! How could you possibly know? How could you know that Obama would have been more proactive? Did he do anything during his time campaigning for preside- er, in the Senate, to stop the economic collapse? No, but he did vote for giving the banks HUNDREDS of billions of dollars. Of course Obama's been working hard, but the real question is who he's working for (A: Wall Street). The Obama you know from television, and other forms of mass media isn't Obama. It's like a reality TV character. It's a carefully polished and scripted brand name. How can you possibly impute pure motives to a man who has done just about everything possible, through his political actions, to make it clear that he not only works on behalf of powerful corporate interests, but that he has knowingly lied and duped millions of suckers into having "hope" in him? I have reasons for claiming that he is working for corporate America. I'm not blindly imputing those motives based on the impressions of his personality that I got from some stupid television interview or news program. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. Bank bailouts The bank bailout was started by Bush right before he left office, the Repugs refused to put any regulations or rules on it and demanded a completly free give away to the banks. Obama then came into office and had to finish what Bush started but was able to put some regulations and repayment plans in. Although I don't agree with the bank bailouts, I also understand that it was necessary to stop banks from going under thereby losing citizens and businesses whatever money they had stored in those banks and causing even more devastating consequences in the economy and the home and business mortgage market. I was very happy to see Obama institute some regulation and repayment in the bank bailouts which effectively told those banks that it wasn't "free" money. One more example of Obama having to clean up after the Bush administration. What good? Want me to list all of the Bush policies that Obama has continued? The broken promises? Please tell me about all of this wonderful "good" that has been done. ---------------------- "The natural wage of labor is its product." -- Benjamin R. Tucker A liberal is someone who thinks the system is broken and needs to be fixed, whereas a radical understands it’s working the way it’s supposed to. SCHIP and Obama's list of accomplishments as Pres. Obama and the Democrats signed SCHIP and increased funding to that program which provides health insurance to children. Bush and his administration had refused to re-fund the program, had cut funding and flat funded the program 6 out of the 8 years he was in office. He has also created new departments that deal with disability issues, womens issues, and childrens issues. Go to http://www.whitehouse.gov to see a list of all of the wonderful things that Obama has done. Lets take "cash for clunkers" for example This program has been a HUGE success and both sides of the aisle give kudos to the Obama administration/democrats for this effort. This has been so good on so many levels it is tough to be negative on it. Yes, there have been problems with getting the money out to the dealers but all-in-all, this has generated/kept jobs, kept auto dealers afloat and has been a real boon to places like Detroit and so forth. Even if some of the money went to foreign cars, most of them are made in the U.S. thus keeping those jobs in place. It has also given people the opportunity to get new vehicles and it will eventually have a small impact on our gasoline/oil usage in the U.S. due to taking the gas guzzlers out of the equation and getting fuel efficient vehicles into the auto pool in the U.S. It's just a very big win/win. Me? I say put another 3 billion into it. I am sure I will hear negatives about that, but it is just a "makes sense" program and that is very rare when it comes to something our government gets involved in. You're a voice of dissent here And, your voice tells most of the people that post here just why they feel as they do and why they are so adamant about their political ideology. If that is your intent, then you are successful. Hard to say why you put messages here as you do. You are either a person that loves to stir the pot or you are someone that is someone that plays devil's advocate to get a conditioned response. I don't get who you are "Dr." Quigley. Dr Quigley Roots? I don't get who you are "Dr." Quigley*Foxtrot Dr Quigley is well known in inside political secret cult circles. He personaly molded "Slick Willie" while at Georgetown University. In fact, it is rumor that he show " Slick" the secret handshake to get into the Secret Jerk off Council of Foreigh Relationships Club. Dr Quigley said years ago that would be the downfall of Slick in politics, if he didn't drop the habit. Later on he wrote a massive book on the Skull and Crossbones secret society at Yale revealing that George Bush Grandfather and Father had slept in a Coffin nude with Running Bear a dead Indian shot by mistake by President Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the century starting the Progressive Green Sitting Bull movement. As you can see, Dr Quigley has always had a sexual fixation on politics with the roots of it in the 21 st century of dirty politics * Sources 1. John Birch Society " Dead Indians" 2. Alex Jones " Secret info about the Sissy Bushes" 3. Moore and Jones " Discount Funeral Directors" 4. Georgetown University " The Pope reveals All" 5. Congressman Ron Paul speaking to the John Birch Society this past weekend about Dr Quigley......Well there goes the neighborhood if Dr Paul is smooching up to the Birchers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S9Ogyu5DDY You have those mirrored sunglasses on backwards again Dr. Quigley! I think the jerk forgot to look up the word Libertarian Before joining a line to give out Brian Stems.