Thursday Threads: Lurkers Unite!

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BlueNC lurkers who aren't registered may not know that we have several hundred readers online at any given time. For example, when I wrote this entry (8:57 AM) there are 246 "guests" on the BlueNC site. This open thread is for you.

Specifically, this open thread is a request that you go the US Navy's official comment site and add your voice to those opposing the Site C Outlying Landing Field. There are tons of entries on BlueNC about the OLF you can use to come up with comments, or feel free to use these notes:

1. Pilot safety. The Navy is disregarding the advice of the nation's best experts in the US Air Force on bird-strike hazards.
2. The voice of the people. The Navy is disregarding the strong and clear desires of North Carolina's leaders in state government, as well as the representatives of the majority party in Congress.
3. Lies. The Navy has muzzled it's so-called cooperating agency, the US Fish and Wildlife Service, which is 100% against Site C.
4. Politics as usual. The Navy has made its case for political reasons that fly in the face of operational and safety concerns.

So, dear Lurkers, even if you don't want to register or sign in, won't you please take action on this important issue? Thanks for your consideration.

Comments

Good idea A

There are many more of them then there are of us....although I wish more of them would register and become a more vocal part of us.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

There was a "National DeLurker Week" last year

Maybe we can have one here?

I've been wondering what would happen if we had a week where we opened up to all comers and allowed people to comment without registering or logging in . . . just to make it easy for them to dip their toes in the water.

I've talked with lots of lurkers who email me all the time. They send stuff asking me to post it and offer lots of comments in general. Sometimes I do what they ask, but usually I'm busy on my own stuff . . . and I just encourage them to sign in and post the entry themselves.

But the truth is, some people seem to be afraid of retribution or of being "found out." Imagine, living in 21st century America . . . and being afraid to say what you think in the political arena. Thank you, George Bush.

PS....Track Changes acting up again

I'm ok...only minor withdrawal pains....:(

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

Progressive Discussions

Got to Recent Blog Posts

and click on "more" - at least you get all blogs instead of just the front page.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Lance says is the Mysteries of the Tubes

IOW, no clear explanation for why this happens from time to time. It usually fixes itself after a few hours.

:(

Lurkers?

What lurkers? Ain't nobody here but us chickens!

(at least until the sailors with dogs, guns, and poison come around)

-B

:)

Funny, B. Very funny.

seriously though,

Is there a single-source background on the OLF? Hard for me to get a handle on what it's all about when all I read are the back-and-forth.

spent my summers under the flight path to cherry point growing up, and I'm very fond of the area... but I'm not even sure where site C is, and most of the who's and how's of what's been going on with this whole thing.

-b

Single source?

Not really. There's a whole website devoted to the topic, with six years of history that's, honestly, hard to follow. This editorial by the News and Observer is a pretty good summary of where things stand right now.

Hate is such a mean and dirty word

I'm a bit shocked at Ed. I mean, we might have to work with people from Duke some day on an issue that's important. I'm just sayin'.........

I guess Ed only gets his knickers in a twist when someone else uses ugly words like hate or maggots. ;)

Side note: I've been pulling air into and pushing it out of my lungs pretty regularly today. However, I don't feel the need to hate lower life forms.....like worms or larvae. We are talking about Dook afterall. :)



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Wrong..

Duke is such a mean and dirty word.

Lurkers

I just started hearing these lyrics in my head...

"I don't wanna lurk
I just wanna blog on BlueNC all day."

Scrutiny Hooligans - http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us

I don't wanna pack

I just want to blog at BlueNC all day.....

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Navy's Bird Management Plan

Read the following article at the N&O site

http://www.newsobserver.com/159/story/550579.html

News&Observer
Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Navy's airfield plan draws a bead on birds
by Wade Rawlins

Federal officials are recommending driving away bird flocks at a proposed Navy landing strip in coastal North Carolina by using dogs, fireworks, poison and guns.

Wilmington Star Gets It Too

In this editorial

The feds have figured out how to deal with huge flocks of birds that would threaten Navy pilots practicing landings in northeastern North Carolina.

Kill them.

This creative idea comes from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which is trying to help the Navy explain why it should impose this unwanted landing field on the farmers of Washington and Beaufort counties.

It would be built within five miles of a national wildlife refuge that attracts tens of thousands of migrating waterfowl for about half the year. The birds also like to chow down on nearby fields of winter wheat.

Agriculture officials don't use the word "kill," you understand. They prefer "depredation" for the "offending animals."

True, they'd first try fireworks, chemical repellents and dogs. If that didn't work, they would prescribe poison for the likes of starlings, blackbirds, pigeons and gulls. Tundra swans, snow geese and other avian tourists, after having been invited to the refuge, would be shot.

The Navy's argument for practicing in this location is neither as solid nor as candid as the argument for invading Iraq. Internal documents confirm that the brass decided where it wanted the field - away from Norfolk, which wants the planes, but not their noise - and then pressured underlings to make the case. As one officer explained to another, "Now we have to reverse engineer the whole process to justify the outcome."

The Navy is still trying. In 2005, a spokesman explained that pilots have "a variety of techniques" to avoid streaking into feathered flocks and exploding in balls of fire.

Apparently that assertion is, as a former White House press secretary might have put it, "inoperative."

So if the screaming Super Hornets come, the offending animals will have to go. Rather than pussyfooting around with poison and firearms, the Navy might as well depredate two birds with one stone by having pilots strafe the wildlife refuge and Napalm the wheat fields.

This is what I call a good editorial.

Good?

That is a great editorial. Satire and sarcasm are often the only medicine for combating inane attitudes and stupid plans.

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Thanks for the links.

The theatrical production continues…

Act: 37650

US Dept. of Agriculture partners with the Navy to help annihilate species of animals.

It cannot possibly get any deeper or dirtier.

It sickens me to witness government agencies devour one of the last ecologically pristine, agriculturally abundant, and profoundly beautiful regions on the east coast.

Due to the willful negligence of both Virginia Beach and the Navy, the state of North Carolina deserves restitution It was, and still is, their responsibility and duty towards our nation to protect NAS Oceana.

Both parties should be held accountable for the encroachment around Oceana. Their irresponsibility has ultimately resulted in the destruction of proper training facilities for our pilots, the ruin of a region and untold millions of dollars to mitigate.

Due to the willful

Due to the willful negligence of both Virginia Beach and the Navy, the state of North Carolina deserves restitution It was, and still is, their responsibility and duty towards our nation to protect NAS Oceana.

Both parties should be held accountable for the encroachment around Oceana. Their irresponsibility has ultimately resulted in the destruction of proper training facilities for our pilots, the ruin of a region and untold millions of dollars to mitigate.

http://www.bluenc.com/adm-nathman-pls-read-opnavinst-11010-36b This link goes to a quick description of the above and is the actual instruction that the Navy uses to facilitate its AICUZ program. This instruction is the basis of Susans arguement. Its 47 pages. but I cannot get a good link on it, so please do a search of OPNAVINST 11010.36B to see the document in its entirety.

This instruction empowers the Navy to do what Susan mentions.

USDA?

I went looking but didn't find USDA specifically but I found this fine piece of tap dancing.

NCDP communications change

From N&O:

Schorr Johnson, the spokesman for the North Carolina Democratic Party for the past three years, has been named communications director for Senate leader Marc Basnight.

Johnson worked as press secretary and assistant to U.S. Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., for five years on Capitol Hill before coming to Raleigh.

Schorr starts March 15th with Marc Basnight.

From NC Spin:

Bolton bolting
Kerra Bolton, Capitol correspondent and columnist for The Asheville Citizen-Times and frequent NC SPIN panelist, has resigned her post with the Times and will become Communications Director for the North Carolina Democratic Party on March 15th.

Good for NCDP even if not so good for Buncombe County.