They want war

We have all witnessed the disgusting charade that is the John McCain-Sarah Palin campaign - a frenzy of racist hate and brown-shirt activism that would shame any decent human being. Today that campaign reached a new low right here in North Carolina.

A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.

This obscenity is the natural consequence of the Republican culture of hate, where the fires of fanaticism have been stoked by Governor Sarah Palin and the whore dogs like Pat McCrory who have been drooling at her stiletto spiked heels.

Anyone who endorses John McCain and Sarah Palin is painted with the same vile brush as the perpetrators of this obscenity. They cannot have it both ways. They cannot say they are against the violent aggression of McCain supporters, while condoning candidates who fan the flames of hate in their rallies and in their speeches.

I am not a violent man, but today I ordered a shotgun. If the Party of Greed wants war, by god, this liberal commie pinko will be ready.

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Did you really?

Jeebus, James.

This is awful. The dead bear, not the shotgun. I'm all for it, and have been considering taking shooting lessons myself. I've never even held a gun in my life, but damn. Damn.

Outside the Obama rally in Fayetteville on Saturday, I didn't witness anything ugly except for the anti-women's health crowd, holding up pictures of bloody babies and the like. They tried to hand me a pamphlet, when I said no thank you, they were fine with that. And of course, there were the sad little Ron Paulies. They shouted a bit about Obama is socialist (as if that would be a problem for me...)but there wasn't any evidence of the virulent ugliness that I saw documented at one of the Cumberland Co. polling places later that day.

And I heard today that at one early voting place in our county, voters were being instructed (by pollworkers) to simply fill in the R or the D, then flip the form over and vote for the judges. So of course, they were actually instructing them not to vote for President. :/

When the director of Elections was called, she denied that it could possibly be happening.

right.

Tires slashed in Fayetteville

Yep. Our Fayetteville.

Plus some asshole in a Dodge truck with Confederate flags almost ran me off the road up in Sparta (in the mountains) on Saturday. I have Obama stickers on my car.
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I'm not surprised about the

I'm not surprised about the tire slashing in "Fed'ville." I grew up in the vicinity. The bases have drawn some very ultra-conservative wing nuts to its bosom in the past 25 years. Those are some scary folks.

Proud Educated Elitist With a Poison Pen

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A picture is worth 1,000 words

God has a sense of humor. A dispatch from NC's western mountain region:

The guy who created these signs is named Clinton Slagle. He's got a confederate tattoo on his arm. He strolled into our headqtrs back during the primary looking for a sign, saying Obama was the only person who made any sense to him....

(Photo credit to Lisa Bocook and The Field).

Yep. I really did.

I've "ordered it" from my sister-in-law who has a whole bunch of guns. We'll get her 16-gauge shotgun refurbished ... and then we'll transfer the ownership to me.

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Congrats! I'm a marksman.

Congrats! I'm a marksman. Not only do I have a brace of handguns, I have two assault rifles, one complete with bayonet. Some right wing nut calling me a commie pinko usually is told "smile when you say them words!"and then they march their boots away a quickly as possible. I'm sure I could show up Sarah at a turkey shoot. No brag, just fact.

This election is scary. I'm almost afraid to get an Obama sticker at the fair tomorrow.

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You too?

Dear Goddess don't let this escalate. Was this the rhetoric being hurled before the civil war where brother fought brother and son fought father? Are we running toward that cliff where once over there is no turning back? Mercy on us all.

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I really do believe that a significant minority of conservatives

would love to have a full-fledged war. They want the right to carry weapons anywhere and everywhere. And judging from the hate spewing all across America, they have no qualms about threats and intimidation.

I haven't shot guns in 30 years ... back when I trained with the Marines at Camp Lejeune. And I sure as hell don't want to shoot one now.

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full-fledged war

I agree==there are some folks who anticipate, are preparing for, and seem almost desirous of a war. Sometimes they call it a "race war." I've heard comments alluding to this for years, from Republican acquaintances who are an extreme of the Party. We are in a neighborhood bordering some still rural areas. Someone nearby who (maybe once a month) could be heard doing target practice is now shooting for hours on many afternoons, starting a week or so ago. Including semi-automatic weaponry. Don't know what that's about but it's not reassuring.

Leigh
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Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war. - John McCain

We live in a rural area as you've described.

There's been lots of guns fired - I haven't heard automatic weapons, but nearly constant "target practice", to the point that I'm afraid to walk in the woods in my own back yard.

Not that I'm afraid someone would shoot me on purpose - just don't want to get caught in the crossfire.

It is kind of odd....

I haven't been hearing any shooting and that is strange for these parts.



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Hmmm.

It's when they stop that you have to worry. You'd better circle the wagons.

{wink}

awful

I am really sorry to hear these things.

Unfortunately, I'm not extremely surprised to hear that about Sparta, and I am saddened. It's so pretty up there. But calling into Sparta from the Obama office in Winston has tended to be markedly unpleasant.

Leigh
http://smuttome.blogspot.com/

Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war. - John McCain

There was at least one Obama sign for every McCain sign

in Sparta ... a surprising number from my experience.

And a TON or Roy Carter signs.

If signs are any predictor, Roy will beat Virginia Foxx.

There was also a thriving Democratic party HQ in Sparta ... every bit as active and tricked out as the Republican HQ.
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Western Carolina

I'm surprised to hear that there were any Obama signs showing up in that part of the state, but I'm glad to hear that folks out there are willing to put them up.

Like James, I was run off a mountain road years and years ago during the first or second Gantt/Helms contest and at the time had the distinct feeling it was because of my Gantt bumpersticker. More recently, My mom found her car had been "keyed" shortly after she applied her Obama bumpersticker.

When I was making phone calls during the primary, I dreaded the lists for western counties because the hostility to Obama was so intense, though, of course, no one would admit that it had anything to do with his race.

My car was keyed too

but it was after I applied my Kissell and Hagan stickers and prior to Obama/Biden. I'm not sure what to expect now.



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Mine was keyed awhile back too

They completely ignored the bumper sticker for the gay guy and keyed my "F the President" sticker, which has been on my vehicle since late 2004.

So far I have witnessed nothing

in the far west. It has been calm out here. I did get up on Sunday morning and look out my window to see if all my yard signs are were I left them or if someone has decide to help me with the landscaping by burning the yard, all is good except for one missing yard sign. I replaced it with a bigger one and it is still there....so far.

Has anyone seen Liz?

The essence of trade unionism is social uplift. The labor movement has been the haven for the dispossessed, the despised, the neglected, the downtrodden, the poor.--A. Phillip Randolph

It is truly frightening

but this incident is slightly encouraging. The wingnuttery showed up at a McCain rally handing out stickers "Obama for Change" with the "C" the Islamic moon and star and the "G" the hammer and sickle of the Soviet Union. A number of Muslims who were McCain supporters were upset and voiced this.

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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Way far out west

In Colorado, at least in our little valley it's still quite civil. My property is right next to the Republican HQ and we routinely wave to each other in the mornings. Early voting started here in Colorado today. I went, and it felt so very good to mark the spot for my Dems.

I already have enough guns, but I'm counting on my sparkling wits to solve most things.

And you, my friend, have sparkling wits indeed

If anyone can stay out of trouble, you can. And if your wits don't work, the girls will take care of things. For sure.


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Let me get this straight

An asshole Republican tries to run me off the road in Sparta. And some unknown McCain supporters shoot a bear in the head and hang Obama signs around his neck. Meanwhile Palin Porn continues to argue that Obama pals around with terrorists. And you think "ya'll" have gone off the deep end?

Judging from your comment, one can only assume you condone the insanity promoted by John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Which makes you nothing more than part of the problem.
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Let's think about this for a minute

An asshole Republican tries to run me off the road in Sparta.

He could have been drunk. Yes?

And some unknown McCain supporters shoot a bear in the head and hang Obama signs around his neck.

This is horrifying to me. Horrifying. I hope someone brags about this and is caught. And there was no need to shoot the bear, for Goddess sake. Severe Karmic kickbacks for that one, no doubt.

Meanwhile Palin Porn continues to argue that Obama pals around with terrorists

She should know - she sleeps with one!

Judging from your comment, one can only assume you condone the insanity promoted by John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Which makes you nothing more than part of the problem.

I've never had the pleasure of meeting Justin, but I know he's a dad, and wants what's best for his family. He doesn't want crazies running around killing bears and slashing tires. And while he's Republican and a Conservative, he's never shown himself to be insane or crazy. Mostly.

Not to talk about you like you're not here, Justin, although you might not be, but, you might be in denial about your party and its top of the ticket. There are some decent local folks (mostly) running, but there is insanity in the ranks, and it's not those of us here who've gone off the deep end. It's the people who use scare tactics to try and intimidate people. They want us to not vote. They want to (see Angry grrl's post) "take our country back" - although I was unaware our country was missing. You have always seemed like a man of fairly good nature and good will. I would urge you to step away before they ask you to drink grape kool-aid or something. {that last part is said tongue in cheek}

Dear Justin,

Your party, your bed, lie in it.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

You might think I'm crazy

for saying this, but Al Jazeera is one of the best news organizations on the planet. They have an uncanny ability to peel the onion on a story down to its causal core, and they have (imo) done more to expose the hypocrisy and dangers of radical Islamic terrorism than any of our corporate news giants could ever dream of.

I've stumbled across numerous extremely interesting news articles there, like this one about an Iranian strike to stop a tax hike:

Rises in retail prices have accelerated since Ahmadinejad took office in 2005.

In September, the cost of a basket of 45 staple food items was up 50 per cent on a year earlier, news reports said.

Annual inflation topped 29 per cent in the Iranian calendar month that ended on September 21.

"Because of this tax, there is an increase of 10 to 15 per cent in prices, so we want the government to annul the law," a shopkeeper said on Sunday.

Iran's "bazaaris" play an important political as well as economic role. The merchants contributed to the collapse of the shah's government during the 1979 Islamic revolution when they went on long strikes.

Saeed Leylaz, an economist, told the AFP news agency: "Inflation of around 30 per cent has to manifest itself in one way or another. This strike is a sign of the dissatisfaction of the middle class with the economic policies of Ahmadinejad."

Many economists have accused Ahmadinejad of directly fuelling price rises by contributing huge amounts of cash into the economy to fund local infrastructure projects.

While the Washington Post did pick this story up, it was shunted to the back pages when it should have been front and center. This is huge. Ahmadinejad's been holding on by his fingernails for the last couple of years, and the only thing that's kept him in office is all the sabre-rattling the U.S. has been engaged in. Take that away from him, and he's just another foolish politician ruining their economy.

B-b-but their A-rabs!

You're right. AJ does serious journalism - and does it far better than most of the so-called mainstream media monstrosities that pass for news organizations in the US. I'd rate them on part with BBC.
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Riiiiiiiiight, because Muslims are evil, right?

Go ahead, say it, Muslims are evil propagandists who don't care about the truth. They PLANTED those white people in Central Ohio, actually it's not even Central Ohio it is the foothills in Croatia and they have lived their whole lives in an English-speaking camp that prepares them to be terrorists. They were reading off cue-cards for goodness sakes, can't you tell?

As for your link, WOW, there are uninformed voters out there!!!

Did you hear those black voters say how a white man would turn them into slaves and this was a muslim country and what would become of it if a Christian became President? Did you hear those black voters talking about how they couldn't trust McCain because he was probably a war-hungry, crazed lunatic from his time in the POW camp? Did you hear how those black voters said that McCain was just a cracker, who obviously wasn't the Republicans first choice, he just couldn't be a first-stringer? Did you hear those black voters say that McCain was the antichrist and that Biden was filled with the Holy Spirit and would bring honesty to the White House? Did you hear those black voters say that McCain was tortured so he MUST support torturing honest people and since he was in Vietnam for so long he probably IS VIETNAMESE and he'll turn us into an Asian country?

Funny, you compare uneducated voters to hate-mongers. I'll say to you the same thing I've said to others. Do Republicans not own video cameras? Where are the videos of Democrats acting like hate-mongers, threatening, spewing? Where is it? Y'all claim that Democrats are saying the same kind of things, but oddly enough, no video tape. Not even from the rallies, which are covered by 20 or 30 video pool cameras probably, and where Republicans SWEAR Democrats are yelling out hate speech.

"You could say, 'Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?' Most of us have never heard of him before." John McCain, following Clinton's strikes on al Qaeda camps

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Robert, seriously.

You need to learn how to express yourself. Don't hold it all inside like this; just let it out.

Obama OUTED by Khaddaffi!

I couldn't find just the right place to put this, but it does fit under the video Robert posted recently about the sad fact of so many seemingly literate people holding so many astonishingly stupid ideas about Obama.

Granted, that fact isn't funny, but sometimes you can't help laughing at the remarks. This is the funniest part of a recent "anonymouse's" post over at TAP and deserves special recognition.

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If you read the Gadhafi article, it is very interesting that Gadhafi, a Muslim himself, does not buy the Obama party line of Obama's religion. I wonder how many more Muslims feel that way?

Now, I have no idea what article he's babbling on about or whether Gadhafi said squat about Obama, but the sincerity, the earnestness of this poor anonymouse who is so sure that this whole thing about Obama calling himself Christian and attending church for decades is an elaborate front, it's just priceless.

He wasn't drunk

well, he may have been drunk.

But he was riding my bumper and giving me the finger. I doubt it was because of my Brevard window decal.
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It's the mountains of NC

He also could have been a Democrat. Sad, but true.



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Not Solely Palin

Slash and burn Republicans goes back to Jesse Helms and his commentariat and political campaigns during the Vietnam War. He and Newt Gingrich bear major responsibility for the GOP migrating into neo-McCarthy looneyhood. And for Jesse, blame A.J. Fletcher and WRAL.

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50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

James....Patience..Its almost over....They lose

Just as a wounded animal, or man for that matter, in some cases struggles, gropes, and strikes out when faced with an inevitable and unplesant end, the Republicans are likewise striking out in a last effort to stay alive, or at least meaningful.

The path they have chosen is the one with no dignity, honor, civility, or class.

They know they have failed and they want to bleed as many of us while they can.

Be patient my brother. They have lost and Democracy has prevailed.

James Protzman is a significant part of bringing down a Republican Party bent on hurting our Democracy.

To you James, and many like you, I am very grateful.

Marshall Adame
2014 U.S. Congress Candidate NC-03

A new low? Naaaaa.

No, shooting the bear and putting Obama signs on its head is not a "new low." It's just the average kind of stupid you're going to find in a certain age group. I'm guessing, given the campus site, that the perps were college students. It's stupid, wasteful and senseless but not very surprising.

I doubt they were able to accomplish anything except to make themselves look idiotic in the eyes of ethical hunters. They wasted the bear carcass, probably intimidated NO ONE in that part of the state (where the carcass of a game animal is not likely to shock anyone's sensibilities), and is unlikely to have caused anyone to reconsider his or her vote.

It doesn't approach the "low" reached by the assault on Joe Killian in Greensboro and the slashing of tires in Fayetteville. I don't think it's even comparable to the brochures the GOP is circulating about Ayers' "close connection" to Obama.

Meanwhile, at TAP the big whine is that people have been stealing McCain signs! Oh pulease . . . . What are these people doing with the grey matter in their skulls?

Had my letter to the editor published in the Friday paper

They've initiated a new option in their on-line paper, a comment section. Read the comments left, they show a sad picture of politics in Moore County. (Scroll all the way to the bottom)
Oh, they must have some kind of filter for certain words, so my last name, Cockman actually appears as !@#$%man.

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Actually I like it LoftT

I think it is a better picture of my feelings about the Moore County Political scene...

Hugs and Kisses, !@#$%man

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I heard on NPR today that the bear was a

75 pound cub, this year's baby. Just when I thought the incident couldn't have been any more disgusting......

I doubt that the perps were students. More likely they were locals trying to make an impression on the "liberal" bastion that is WCU.

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Naw, not actually a cub

At 75 pounds, he was probably two years old. And, it turns out, the perps were students.

Thanks for the update. I really like that the morons

were caught. Hopefully they will be tied to a tree and covered in honey or at least get maximum sentences for every possible crime they committed. Buttheads.

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dumb, dumb, dumb

Stupid, stupid kids.

I doubt that these idiots will get in much trouble. They say they found the bear carcass, which isn't altogether unlikely. If one of them had shot it and didn't have a license, they could get him for that, but shooting a bear in the head is not easy, so it was probably shot by a hunter. Dumping the carcass is wanton waste, but I don't know that the penalty for that is particularly high.

Their claim that the purpose of the posters around its head was to keep it from oozing on their truck or whatever is pretty lame. I imagine they got pretty intimidated by the officers line of questioning and were anxious to insist it wasn't politically motivated.

Idiots.

AH . . . the DOME has the story. I think the police mentioned Secret Service and probably freaked these kids out.

They found them?

Have you a link to the story?

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They got 'em

Can't remember where I saw it. Possibly WRAL.

Aside from the fact that bear aren't in season

and that alone is a hefty fine (sigh) the wanton destruction they wreak is message enough. It pisses me off that they'd kill something they wouldn't use or eat, just to make a terrorist point.

Point taken, mfrs. Irresponsible, just like their chimperor and their chickenhawk bobbleheads. Grr.

I'll admit to have taken the concealed carry course offered by the sheriff's office and am waiting for the return of my permit. It's a sad state of affairs when one fears the nutcase contingent has a reasonable expectation of what the nutcase contingent will pull and has to protect one's self against it.

Ain't skeert.

They've been told by hate-radio that "libruls" are soft, weak and won't fight back. Boyhowdy, are they in for a surprise. We know the rules, will abide the law to the fullest extent, but will use it to the fullest extent as well. I won't remove the "Vets for Obama" alongside the Clergy sticker on my car. The combination tends to make their heads explode.

Heh.

A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
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A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
Mohandas Gandhi

But they are in season or just were (had to edit that)

The season isn't the problem. The wanton waste is still an issue, but it's doubtful that these students killed it.

They are probably telling the truth when they say they found the carcass. Putting a bullet through a bear's skull isn't easy, so unless one of them was incredibly lucky, it's far more likely that a hunter did the shooting.

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