Rick Martinez: Clueless by choice

There are few things more annoying than the smarmy self-righteousness of pro-life men, especially when one of those men has been given a platform to spin his depraved view of reality on the pages of the News and Observer. Which brings us to the sad case of Mr. Rick Martinez.

I'll spare you most of his holier-than-though pontificating about the state of feminism in America - and zero in on one core issue: Mr. Martinez believes abortion should be illegal, pure and simple.

. . . the right to privacy, on which abortion on demand is based, is being transformed into the right not to be inconvenienced by an unwanted child. As each year goes by, the traditional arguments in favor of abortion rights crumble. This leaves advocates in the unenviable position of being more anti-child than pro-woman.

It's tempting to think that Martinez is simply trying to believe provocative, that he doesn't actually believe his own happy horse shit. It's tempting to give him the benefit of the doubt, to assume that he actually hasn't thought through the consequences of his misogyny and paternalism. It's tempting to excuse his writing as misguided but well-intentioned.

But I won't succumb to any of those temptations. I will simply label Rick Martinez the fool that he is.

Rick Martinez is driven by ideology that is blind to reality. Apparently he's never seen a young teenager carrying the "unborn child" of the father who raped her. He's never confronted the depth of poverty where another mouth to feed could mean the difference between food stamps and some semblance of dignity. He's never confronted the hard edge of pro-life insanity that seeks to eliminate both the right to abortion and the right to contraception.

And, of course, Mr. Martinez is a warmonger. He has roundly applauded the Child King's War in Iraq and deemed 100,000 Iraqi lives well worth the cost of freedom and democracy. His "pro-life" position is hypocrisy of the highest order.


Update: My original title (Will someone please rape Rick Martinez?) has been withdrawn. I knew it was extremely provocative and I have taken it down out of respect for people whose opinions I respect. I do not wish for Mr. Martinez to suffer any harm no matter how offensive his viewpoints.


Busy Day A

I guess that you are still juiced from yesterday.

I am

Yesterday's meeting gave me a clear view of the potential contribution all of us can make as the netroots come of age. There is much to do and time's-a-wastin.

The traditional arguments for abortion rights

haven't changed one iota. The only thing that has changed is that a whole generation of young women take their rights for granted and have grown complacent. A full court press by the right is welcome from where I stand, because it will trigger the kind of backlash that will turn red states purple and purple states blue.

The line between theocracy and fascism is thin and eroding. The Libertarian right is rapidly abandoning its unholy alliance with the theocratic right. The fracturing is palpable.


Thats a pretty impressive last line. Been doing some novel writing?

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And the headline also packs a punch

As a sexual abuse survivor, it's pretty hard to see those words in print. I know many people don't understand sex crimes and sexism in general and it's frustrating that mysogynists and downright criminals are often respected voices in our society. But I don't wish death for murders and I never wished for my offender to suffer as I did. (I just wanted him to be stopped and I wanted him to learn to understand what he'd done.) So, that's your headline is a rough one for me.

But I do love your passion for the subject!
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the Drama.

Yeah, I don't think asking for someone - anyone - to be raped

makes us look any better than the people we decry.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

All of us creative types struggle along the

fine line between attracting attention and potentially offending. I'm assuming Anglico thought the potential harm was worth it to provoke discussion. I've used similar tactics myself.

I just wanted to give him the feedback that I could hardly pay attention to the content of his argument (most of which I appreciate very much), because I was so repulsed by the mental image of his headline.

And, if he thinks that in the future those kinds of risks are worth the potential rewards, I can accept that. I probably just won't read the article.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the Drama.


The statistics I have seen the line "your headline is a rough one for me" probably applies to a ton of both registered users and guests.

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Wonder how he would feel

if he had a young daughter who got raped by a savage and ended up pregnant. Does he think that the right thing to do would be to make that young 12 or 13 year old have a baby? Let's see, how can we make this rape worse for the victim? Oh yeah, let's make her have a baby too. Let's just ruin her entire life.


I really wanted

to use the "f" word, but my mother would be very upset.


i wonder

how many times Rick Martinez has been married? Considering how many of the biggest anti-choice advocates are adulterers, it would be interesting.

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Perhaps It's Anecdotal, Perhaps Just Plain Wrong....

...but from where I'm sitting, the very same people who are more concerned with saving life appear concerned about saving it only if that life is bereft of dignity, pleasure, freedom, science, sufficiency, kindness, and purpose other than denying these things to still more persons.

Oh, sorry. You don't get to have contraception, either. The more people in abject, tractable destitution, the better.

Somebody stop me before I start making sense. :)

This is important

Chris is talking about the root causes and issues. The Party of Greed prospers on the backs of the poor and needy. Payday lending is the perfect example. The financial services industry in general. Insurance companies. Affordable dentures. Slumlords. Variety Stores, Inc. Migrant workers. It is a familiar pattern.

The Greeders have a vested financial interest in a perpetual underclass.

We were talking about this last night in Raleigh

That for Republicans, if a given piece of legislation doesn't afflict somebody, then something's wrong with it.

Pubs see everything in terms of the zero-sum transaction. For their constituencies to win, other constituences must lose, ergo the more other constituencies are made to lose, the more GOPer cadres win.

Wealth disparity is to Republican eyes a sign that their way of looking at things is valid, and that their policy choices are working, and working mostly for them.

That millions live without health insurance is another win for the Republiverse; more advanced healthcare for the deserving peeps who can afford it.

Homelessness? Not a problem. More square footage for the better half...or tenth...or fiftieth, oh, forget it. It's still good on principle.

Iraq troubles? For Pubs? Not really. Better their country dies than America. Who could possibly object?

That angry "This isn't funny, not even as snark!" feeling you are experiencing right now it the health and appropriate response.


phrase, this "abortion on demand".

It is used by wingers to suggest that an elective abortion can be obtained through all nine months of pregnancy and it is a complete and utter lie.

Let's put aside the medical facts of the issue - less than 1% of all abortions are performed after the 26th week and when they do occur it is for life/health risks to the fetus or mother. (from the Guttmacher Institute)

Let's focus instead on the actually legal and practical falsehoods of this assertion.

First, let's take a the laws that restrict abortion, including:

39 states with hospital and physician requirements
36 states with gestational limits based on "fetal viability"
12 states banning so called partial-birth abortions (including 8 who may be violating the Constitution)
32 states that restrict the use of public funding
4 states that restrict the use of private insurance
46 states that allow health care providers to refuse to provide this procedure under any circumstances
28 states that require mandatory counseling
24 states with mandatory waiting periods
34 states with some type of parental involvement law

Of course, then we have issues of access to services which disproportionately effects low-income and minority women.

And finally, we have the changing Supreme Court.

Abortion On Demand is a myth and the use of the term as some right-wing talking point is absolutely infuriating!

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divide and conquer

I always find it interesting how the GOP can use abortion and guns to be the major issue in elections over the past 2 decades.

I wish voters would make a pie-chart, and put on there: security, education, abortion, health care, jobs, economic growth, global relations, reducing the national debt, environment, etc.
Once they have done that, divide up the pie chart, to find where they stand.

May want to also throw in the fact that abortions went down by an average of 300,000 per year, while Clinton was in office..then rose again after the current prez took over.

Nice picture.

Love it.

Don't forget the gay card

If you keep up with the Pew Reports on voter types, it's very clear why they stress these issues. Republicans CAN NOT WIN if they don't. They have no choice.

Democrats win on minimum wage, health care, etc. Dems get Independants on almost every issue. Where we get split and where Rs gain nought independents votes to win used to be on terrorism. But not just defense in general. Only if they scared us to death, would a majority vote R but last year they finally blew that.

Now, they have to turn to abortion and homosexuality. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. The numbers are quite clear.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.”
So enjoy the Drama.

we arent any better

Dont you know that raising the minimum wage is nothing more than paying the poor for their votes.

I actually had someone in Hickory tell me that.

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min wage

I disagree with that statement on min wage.

The dems are the party of the people, and giving people an opportunity to survive in today's marketplace.

The raise in min wage is logical to most Americans. Over the years, corporate gains have risen, health care has risen, inflation continues upward....making a raise in min wage pretty logical to most people.

I agree that many elected officials (Dems and Reps), have never experienced the 'real world'(besides what they read in school), but at least most elected Dems understand and acknowledge that many Americans live 'paycheck to paycheck'

i should have warned you

I lay on the sarcasm pretty thick sometimes.

I absolutely agree with your reasoning about the minimum wage being logical to most people.

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Dems being too nice

Time for the Dems to quit being nice, and play hardball.

The Mark Foley issue was brought into play before the 2004 election, but the dems did nothing to uncover the story before the heavily contested presidential election.

The president of the National Association of Evangelicals, also got caught with his pants down.

My thoughts are that the right-wingers pushing the vote of Christians, are now in a struggle to gain back trust.

Where are the Dems?? any attempt at gaining back support of envangelicals or southern Baptists? Or will they just sit and rest, until next election?

Pro-choice arguement weakening?

What? I havent been aware that my specific pro-choice logic has been weakening every year. But I thank Mr. Martinez for his insight into my own mind.

This is seriously one of the reasons why abortion, gay marriage, and the like of "moral issues" will never go away in favor of real legitmate Congressional concerns. Because of hypocritical "i know what is best for you" pundits and talking heads, that in extreme irony, have no f****** clue what they are talking about.

Makes me sick to see that people even read his garbage.

Our children need to know that some people fought back, when others collaborated.

Our children need to know that some people fought back, when others collaborated.

Be sure you tell him, too.


He doesn't actually care what you think, of course, and probably gets perverse pleasure out of being whipped up on, but let him know anyway.

He's an Art Pope Puppet, implanted in the McClatchy Newspaper Klan to keep their reactionary credentials intact.