Sure is getting kind of tense around here. Soooooo, in the interest of peace, love and harmony, let's take up Rip's suggestion and have a little show and tell. Especially lurkers.

Our site stats show roughly 3500 different people hitting BlueNC every week. Even if the number is only half that, there sure are a lot of strong, silent types out in the shadows. Come on out. We'll be nice.



As you may have noticed, I changed my online name from Anglico to James a few weeks ago. I'm not sure what I think about it still, but I'm sticking with it this time. Being more clearly who I really am tends to tone things down just a touch, which is good in my case.

If you click on any person's name at BlueNC, you can read whatever bio they've written about themselves. Mine is more or less up to date. I'm 57 years old.

I'm currently being Mr. Mom in our home while my wonderful wife is working in China on a Big Grant for a couple of weeks. I'm usually Mr. Mom anyway, so it's not all that traumatic. I live in Chapel Hill, but I spend time at the beach and the mountains when I can. But no matter where I am, I'm usually writing something.

I'm a writer. This is what I do.

I never participate in these

And I'm not going to start. ;-)

Very sad day in the office today.
Micah 4:3:
... and they shall beat their swords into plowshares ... nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

Come on.

You don't have to participate. Just answer questions. To which particular source of sad are your referring?


Eve Carson was a friend of the campaign and a good friend of many on the campaign. She will be missed dearly.

Micah 4:3:
... and they shall beat their swords into plowshares ... nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks

I thought it might be that.

My wife Jane knew her well too. Everyone's shell-shocked. Someone somewhere is saying it's god's will and that we're just not smart enough to understand.

I'm not smart enough, that's for damn sure.

That's a silly thing to say, really.

It's not the will of any god I've ever heard of that a young woman any where be murdered. People have free will; and people did this. This was the will of an individual, or several individuals. We may never understand why these people did this - but it's not up to a god. It was a person or people who murdered Eve Carson.

I'm so sorry for those who knew and loved her. I hope you find comfort in the arms of your friends and family, and in the memories of Eve. I am truly sorry for your loss. I wish only for you to find peace and comfort.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

really a shock for chapel hill

I am not affiliated with UNC but this kind of mysterious and violent death is a blow to the heart for everyone. As a mother, I hurt for the parents of such an exceptional young woman, who clearly steered her in all the right ways in life. I told my son yesterday, that a parent will be sad to lose even the most no-count, messed up child, but to lose one who contributes so much is really, really hard to believe.

I only hope that whoever did this proves as careless as they were cruel, and that evidence can be found to make an arrest soon.

It's not supposed to happen

If I have read correctly, she was shot multiple times, including a point-blank range shot to the temple. The random violence in this case sounds like a gang initiation.

As you say, it's heartbreaking regardless of the achievements of the victim. I suspect that what jars so many of us is that we like to believe this kind of horror is avoidable. It's not supposed to happen to well bred white girls following the straight and narrow paths. Loveable, charming individuals who exhibit all the behaviors associated with a happy, productive, prosperous life are supposed to be somehow protected.

I don't mean to suggest that any of us actually considers victims of violent crime to have implicitly "asked for it" by virtue of a lower status in society or a choice to participate in risky activities. Rather I think this belief in the implicit safety of the Eve Carsons of our world is a deeply buried, unwitting concept, a subconscious mechanism of self-assurance.

The shock doesn't ever really fade away.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

sorry to hear about that.

I recognized her name from somewhere, not sure where though.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

I'm a newbie

... to North Carolina that is, not to the netroots. I've been involved in 'internet politics' since, well, back when reporters couldn't stop calling it "e-activism." I'm also very much involved in Youth Politics, & the Young Democrats of America.

I'm originally from Chicago, but have lived in Nebraska for about 8 years (hence the name). Now, I find myself en route to NC, and I've added several local blogs to my RSS reader including this one.

Let's see, other things worth noting include that I"m a sometimes, part-time, student- I'm a musician, and I an an aspiring surfer.

I'm sure you'll hear more from me via comments / diaries / what have you -- over the coming months.

Welcome, nebraskajohn

glad to see you here.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Been playing fallout?

Hey that "avatar" picture you're using comes from the manual of one of the fallout games.
okay, I'm a total

Hi, I'm Linda

I used to post under "lcloud", but decided to go ahead and use my first name because it's just easier. So many people thought it was "I" Cloud like I Robot.

I'm the director of a non-profit child care resource and referral agency in Southern Pines, mom to a terrific high school senior, and I'm married to the most supportive person ever, who puts up with me spending hours online doing stuff here. When I'm not online here, I'm helping organize our local party as 2nd vice chair, putting together a new young dems group, and getting ready for the upcoming precinct meetings and conventions.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

I kind of like I Cloud

It has a nice ring of importance to it.

I, Obidiah

:) that's true!

When I write my memoirs, maybe that will be the title.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

I do remember.

Now that you know me, you know it means Loud, right? :)

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

El Cloud

I always visualized a female El Cid

Holy Moses

One Sophia is as much as I can handle:

I was thinking more of a Joan of Arc riding around Moore County on horseback. More NARAL than NRA.

What a beautiful smile

and the sparkle in her eyes that says....I got Daddy in the palm of my hand....

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Ahhhhh Ingrid Bergman in armor; I like it.

I'll bet Linda just might go for that. At least the lady leader with a sword kicking butt part of it.

I relate a lot to movies; can you tell?

But let's hope that things end better for Linda.

Oh, and that Heston in drag line was meant as a swipe at Heston - to be blunt, I don't like him.

Person County Democrats

I actively oppose gerrymandering. Do you?

Yeah, I could go for that.

Kicking butt and taking names. Sounds like a good idea. I'm going to have to get started.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

What a beauty!

Greg, you've got your work cut out for you with this femme fatale as a daughter. You're going to have to start fending off potential suitors in about - has it started yet?

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Tilting at windmills

Sometimes that's what it feels like - both at my job and at my avocation of trying to affect change in Moore County. But maybe something will happen. Maybe.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

nebraskajohn, come enjoy the carolina spring!

What brings you here, and are you interested in volunteering for a great candidate who wants to retire Elizabeth Dole?

Come meet Jim Neal and we would be happy to put you to work! Or, let us know where you are headed to in NC and I am sure someone will at least buy you coffee. We are pretty friendly here.

I just realized my bio

was completely blank. ;(

I put a few things in there, but I am a 47 year-old factory manager during the day and a keyboard commando :) at night and on the weekends.

Yeah, I haven't

paid that much attention to the bio link either, but updated mine as well. For the sake of transparency, altho I really don't contribute that much, folks have a right to know who's on the other end of the intertoobs.

Thanks, jlgolden

Nice to meet you.

An Appreciative Lurker

But I also recycle news to BlueNC about megadumps.
The latest:

From on 3/5/08

COLUMBIA — Marlboro County residents marched on the Statehouse on Wednesday to voice their opposition to a proposed landfill they’re calling a “megadump.” Members of the group Concerned Citizens for Marlboro County said they think the landfill will hurt the environment and bring down property values. The proposed site is about 900 acres near Wallace in northern Marlboro County.

This proposed landfill site is just south of the NC state line, bordering Richmond County, just south of Hamlet. It is proposed by MMR, headquartered in Raleigh. There are lawsuits regarding county vs. state authority. A second proposal, from Waste Management, Inc., is for a site also in Marlboro, to the east of the MMR site. Entrances to both sites would be through NC rails, roads, and ports.

The NC Environmental Review Commission has items on the agenda that relate to permitting and to transport of waste, so there may be adjustments in solid waste regulations during the coming legislative session. NC’s Solid Waste regulations will be impacted by South Carolina’s solid waste decisions.

Thanks Zate

I have a sinking feeling the whole megadump issue is out there waiting to explode in more ways than we can count. We just keep making more and more trash every day, yet policy makers seem in total denial about the issue.

"Waste to Energy" is a "Waste of Energy".

We could be doing so much towards recycle, reduce, reuse, reduce; saving landfill space, resources, and toxic air and water; and making money! Horry County, SC is doing a grand job as a private authority, making lots of money with their recycling. So is Coastal Reginal Solid Waste Management in Craven county.

There are major problems with privitizing garbage, and all we need is the political will to take responsibility. Regional Authorities, and education, are needed. That is difficult in the face of the 84 lobbyists that were on the scene during the last legislative session. Our legislature did a grand job, with the moratorium, then the much improved Solid Waste Act of 2007, keeping 5 major megadumps out of NC.

Our policy makers need our appreciation and our strong support to counter the industry's ever more powerful and misleading message. One of the worst aspects is their receiving major subsidies for "renewable energy", while making the environment more toxic and delaying the development of true renewable energy. Remediation of these huge megadumps is all but impossible, almost certain, and at best, will end up as a huge expense to the state.

That's too close for comfort, Zate.

and it explains all the "no mega dump" signs in Rockingham. Thanks for what you're doing.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Garbage trucks and railroad cars through Moore County ...

... much of it on the way from NYC. This Marlboro proposal is a 932 acre site. The largest proposal in NC, in Camden, was to be about a 500 acre footprint. The proposal in Scotland was a 400 acre site on a 2,300 acre parcel, four times the size of the Republic Services landfill in Troy. These things are huge, as tall as a 28 story building, and as the toxic soup gets thicker and thicker, the health risks rise. The truck traffic (up to 400 trucks a day in and out) adds to the toxic soup, and the garbage truck traffic wears out roads. Transporting garbage up and down the east coast does not provide a "Think Green" image, hard as WMI works at greenwashing.

You remain the first image I had of your name: "Incredible Cloud".

Oops ... lost Peace ...

Should have started a seprate trash blog. :)

Our blog is your blog

Trash away!

:) You're incredible.

The work you're doing is fantastic. I wish I had more time for the environmental groups. I know a lot of the folks here in Moore Co who are involved, but with the Party work, my job and related Early Childhood stuff, I don't have time to do more than make sure we're recycling at home.

But if there's ever something going on close by here, please let me know so that I can get the word out via Moore County Dems. There are a lot of people who would turn out for that.

Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi


I'll bring on more as events unfold. I am most appreciative of having the opportunity to spread trash news through BlueNC.

And I love learning so much about NC politics from you folks. Although I grew up in NC, I lived elsewhere after college, mostly Miami, and have come back, full circle, about ten years ago. I really do enjoy and appreciate the breadth and depth of issues you span.

My NC political learning curve began with an attempt to stop a hog farm permit. (DENR: "I wouldn't mind having one of those lagoons in my back yard.") (Did you know that around 500 hog lagoons have been constructed since the moratorium in 1997?!) Then to sewage spills and and consequent pond plant overgrowth. Then along came the proposed WMI landfill to Scotland County. The WMI office is still open in downtown Laurinburg. Just today I connected with a group in IL that has been battling a landfill for 29 years!

Hog lagoons, sewage spills and megadumps have brought such interesting dynamics of NC into my life! And some mighty fine folks. It is, indeed, an exciting time to be alive.

I know the lagoons were a hot topic a few years ago

and thinking about them recently, I googled NC hog lagoons and didn't come up with anything that wasn't at least a few years old.

Do tell, what is the status of this important environmental issue? This is a huge business/mess for NC and it seemed we were on track to clean it up. What's happening?


This delightful description of lagoon issues is by Jim Hightower - Wed., 2/6/08:

Washington is about to pass a humongous farm bill, and it's full of crop subsidies for large agribusiness operations-while 60 percent of family farmers get not a dime. However, there's another agribusiness subsidy stuck in this whopper of a bill that gets little media coverage. Under the guise of environmental improvement, it provides about $180 million to huge corporate entities that run industrialized hog and cattle operations. These factory farms keep the animals confined, feeding and medicating them in an assembly-line process.

Having hundreds of thousands of animals crammed in these factory facilities creates a special problem for industrial agriculture: waste. Hogs and cattle defecate and urinate. A lot. What to do with this excrement? Agribusiness channels it to lined ponds or "manure lagoons."

In 2002, as these massive-scale livestock operations were spreading across rural America, corporate lobbyists quietly changed a farm conservation program to make these outfits eligible for funding-and to declare that manure lagoons could be paid for with government funds as a "conservation measure."

How ironic since these lagoons are notorious for leaking into groundwater, overflowing into nearby streams, and fouling the air for everyone downwind. The factory operations also are squeezing small, sustainable farmers out of business.

For years our nation's environmental laws were based on the ethical precept that the polluter must pay. Now that's been perverted to the unethical notion that we must subsidize the polluter.

It's the newspeak of the Bush criminals

Clear Skies Initiative = more poisons to breathe

Open Roads = rape of national forests

Conservation Measure = manure lagoons

Typical deeds or the Republicons. Brownie, you're doin' a helluva job.


Waterboarding = body surfing (upside down)


Manitoba, Canada had an interesting approach. They didn't ban hog farms, just those in certain parts of the province.

What keeps it in perspective for me is that there are more hogs than people in NC, that hogs go from 60lbs to 260lbs in 6 months and produce waste at 3 times the rate of humans without the benefit of septic tanks or waste treatment plants. Even Rolling Stone has written about NC hogs, and I don't mean Harleys.


there are more hogs than people in NC

So...if you were to give each of them a first and a last name, could they feasably become registered voters?

I mean, think about it: wouldn't they vote for the party that has a higher concentration of vegetarians, more accepting of alternative lifestyles, more concerned about animal rights, etc. Heck, they're probably kind of pissed off about the manure situation themselves. I mean, just because they root around in the shit and seem to enjoy it, it doesn't necessarily follow that they prefer...

Good Lord. I have totally lost my mind (again).

Based on ...

... NC's unfortunate history with pigs and politics, voter registeration for pigs is a mighty dangerous prospect!

Yeah but

I think the photographic evidence points to pigs belonging to a different party than your theory indicates.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

Isn't that Seattle?

Right across the street from the shopping mall with the monorail terminal, there's several different pig statues scattered around a plaza area. I don't remember that guy, but the design is very similar. Weird.

I thought it was Robin Hayes

Not sure he travels to Seattle often, but you know he owns his own jet and can fly himself anywhere he wants to go.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.