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Karl Rove

So...It went down.

I was proud of the protesters, I have to admit. There were a lot of very angry people at Page Auditorium at Duke last night, and they took the opportunity to make their protest seen, and in some cases briefly heard.

Some of the questions were aggressive, and some of the signs and shouts ("Arrest him!" "You are a murderer!" etc) were certainly harsh.

But no one prevented other people from hearing, or listening.

It was sometimes an unfriendly atmosphere, and maybe even disrespectful.

The point is that NOTHING guarantees a friendly, or respectful hearing. You are guaranteed a hearing, and nothing more. Mr. Rove got that. And the protesters got to make their point, also.

A number of conservative students said they were "embarrassed" at the protests. Bull puckey. The audience was restrained, and "respectful" in the formal sense of not exercising the heckler's veto. If the protests embarrass you, then you might want to talk to the protesters and learn more about why they are upset.

And, in case you didn't see this....

You may well laugh. That's my prediction.

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.

Michael C. Munger

Rove Speech II

He comes across as very prepared, and was not dismissive. In fact, he actually persuaded me that I was quite wrong about several things I believed to be true. (Daschle really did press for an early vote on the war resolution, for example. I hadn't heard that case made credibly before. But Rove had dates and specifics.)

Some of the questions, on torture and Valerie Plame: in THOSE cases he DID just give dismissive and canned answers. But he was quite flexible otherwise, and it was interesting to hear him.

A big week at Duke: Tomorrow night....Rick Santorum! In Griffith Film Theater, 8 pm Wednesday.

Lots of that old conservative Kool-Aid. The students have been complaining that Duke never has conservative speakers. Karl Rove and Rick Santorum in three days? WHERE'S THE BALANCE?

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.

Michael C. Munger

Rick Santorum - my shame.

He's the only Republican I ever voted for. Ever. I was young - I believed a lot of what he said. He was "for families." I had a young family at the time. He never addressed some of the issues that were important to me, so I didn't know that he would be against things like gay Americans serving in the Military. I still feel ashamed when I see his name.

But I learned from that experience. I learned to ask questions and not just read campaign materials. I learned to ask what someone means when they say they are for "families" - "Just which families are you for"?

Sigh.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAID ROVE MIKE??????????

Lots of that old conservative Kool-Aid. The students have been complaining that Duke never has conservative speakers. Karl Rove and Rick Santorum in three days? WHERE'S THE BALANCE?* Sputterman Mike

Balance my ass! Would your conservative punks or Brownshirt thugs be happy if Hilter was the balance conservative that they could be happy with?

Besides! You never did answer the question?

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAID THAT UNCONSTITUTIONAL WARMONGERING FASCIST PIECE OF NEO-CON CRAP TO COME TO DUKE AND PISS ON THE STUDENTS AND YOU?????

ANSWER THE QUESTION AND NO MORE BLUE BROTHERS ROVE EXCUSES?

Yeah, what's up with that?

Since I don't watch local news, I've almost NEVER seen his puss on the TV. But now, he's got commercial after commercial playing.

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

running for something.

His voice tells me no, but his presence on tv tells me yes, yes yes.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

I've had the same questions poppin' around in my head

Y'all must remember it, too ... the months when Mr. Easley the Attorney General was prepping for the Gov. run back in the day. He was on the teevee a whoooooole lot back then. The pattern is unmistakable, I think. Is he running for something? Maybe. Or maybe he's raising his profile for an appointment of some kind.

I think he'd be very good and quite competent in a federal post of some sort ... where he could be a "CEO" type in a legal role, of course .... somewhere in the Dept. of Justice? U.S. Attorney? Dep. Attorney General? Attorney General? Federal Judge? ???

Many questions. No answers ... yet.

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Besides AG

Because the AG is always an obvious choice for people talking about Mike Easley, I recently thought about Education. I think he would do a fine job heading up our nation's education policy. He has certainly shown a commitment to focusing on what happens before kids enter school and what happens in the first year or two. And I think that is a focus that we have missed nationally.

"Keep the Faith"

"Keep the Faith"

With respect,

I think Easley has done okay with education, but he's not the powerhouse there that Jim Hunt was. Easley would be a much better AG, I think.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Legacy

I still don't think he's running for anything. I think what's actually going on here is some legacy building. If he were running for anything, he'd never have made those remarks about illegal immigrants and community colleges. Never.

However, Easley recognizes, rightly, that in the long run, the frenzy of bigotry will be overcome by force of time, practicality and the inevitable (and welcome) ascendance of Latin Americans in our society. Easley knows how the history will eventually be written, and he wants to be on the right side, notwithstanding the politics he played -- like all the rest of 'em -- while in office.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
-Edmund Burke

MPAA Violates Copyright in Wiretapping Students

boingboing.net/2007/12/03/mpaas-university-wir.html

MPAA is the Motion Picture Associate that wants to prevent people from viewing any film that doesn't have either Tom Hanks or Kirsten Dunst in it. They have attempted to use public universities as their own personal instruments of copyright enforcement. This effort was stymied today after it was found that MPAA themselves in violation of a software copyright.

I doubt anyone in the MPAA will be fined and serve a prison sentence, despite the fact that MPAA routinely calls for this punishment for copyright violators.

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Thomas Jefferson said you always get the rulers you deserve.

Anyone catch this Zogby poll?

I'm not sure if anyone here discussed it, but I found this Zogby poll online that matches up the 3 Democratic presidential front runners with the 5 republican front runners.
There's only one Democratic candidate that beats all the republicans by a landslide.
I'll give you one guess who that is....
Exactly.

Barack Obama Logo

P.S.: notice that Hillary loses ALL of the match ups

Left on 49

Edwards doesn't lose

to any of them. He pulls even with McCain, of all people, and beats everyone else, though with not as big of a margin as Obama. Interesting poll.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Rasmussen has different results.

I think these popularity contests are sort of meaningless:

Barack Obama (D) 44%
John McCain (R) 44%

Barack Obama (D) 43%
Rudy Giuliani (R) 41%

Barack Obama (D) 45%
Mike Huckabee (R) 41%

Barack Obama (D) 48%
Fred Thompson (R) 41%

Barack Obama (D) 48%
Mitt Romney (R) 39%

John Edwards (D) 47%
John McCain (R) 38%

Rudy Giuliani (R) 45%
John Edwards (D) 44%

John Edwards (D) 48%
Fred Thompson (R) 39%

John Edwards (D) 50%
Mitt Romney (R) 34%

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

The horse races are

The horse races are interesting, but it's a mistake to choose our candidate -- again -- based on who we think can win, Zogby also predicted that Kerry would win in 2004.

I think more importantly....

we should shy away from a candidate that is highly UNelectable, like one who has poll after poll saying ~50% of the population would never vote for "them".

One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. - Carlos Ruiz Zafon

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Indeed...

Hillary Clinton: Same old news in same old packaging. Time for something new!

As far as Hillary's favorability rating:

poll 1

poll 2

Need any more?

Hillary Clinton, the best GOTV asset for the GOP.

From your poll #2

" the percentage claiming they would definitely not vote for her now (44%) is seven points lower than in January 2006 (51%)."

This backs the multiple polls (first link) I linked to showing her negatives dropping over the last 6 months.

Need any more?

No problem. :-)

Person County Democrats

I actively oppose gerrymandering. Do you?

Elderly?

Over 46 is elderly??

Listen, you young whippersnapper....


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

Where do you buy a rotary phone these days?

I've been browsing the Sears and Roebuck catalogue for hours now. I can't decide between the Daisy WonderwheeI and the Dyna-Ring (TM) *Executive* model (in black, phlegm and okra) with patented new # hole! Gosh, I hope PPP hasn't been trying to call...

Whoops!

I've just been informed that I don't need to back-date that far. Any push button telephone will work, (including the new Dyna-Ring *ANVIL* model which comes in your choice of black, whiskey sour and rust) as long as it has a cord that is no longer than six feet in length and is secured firmly to the wall outlet in a solid, mid-century ranch house in one of several pre-selected zip codes.

P.S. PPP: Call me!

Still have one

I still have an old rotary phone and it works. One of the all black models that you see in 60's era sitcoms.

"jump in where you can and hang on"
Briscoe Darling to Sheriff Andy

My new Dyna-Ring *ANVIL*

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I got it in "whiskey sour" and it's been ringin' off the hook!

:-P

doesn't matter what the model is, as long as the ringer still works

if you know what I mean.


Be the change you wish to see in the world. --Gandhi

If you've been wonderin' where I've been

Sam and Biden at Cooney's

We expected 60, DMR says we got 300.

1 Thessalonians 5:21: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.

I always wanted to be the avenging cowboy hero—that lone voice in the wilderness, fighting corruption and evil wherever I found it, and standing for freedom, truth and justice. - Bill Hicks