NC Senate Staff and County Party Chair Puts Party Above the State, Above the Law

Submitted by Lance on

Is there some other way to read this?

I am the County Chairman of Caldwell County and know for a fact that a person, now deceased, who lived as a young man in Caldwell County and moved to Raleigh many years ago to pursue a business in running campaigns and later had a State Government job, was registered to vote in Wake County. However, after he got the 10th District Congressional Congressional Race for McHenry's opponent as a client, he re-registered to vote in Caldwell County while living still in Wake County. We in Caldwell County knew about this----but---- he was a Republican and we did not want to "say bad about another Republican". Now what is the difference in this "story" and your allegations? I have been a faithful reader and subscriber of your paper and have encouraged a local man to become involved with you paper. Now, I feel I must reconsider my support and faithfulness to your paper. Jo Murray, Caldwell County Republican Chairman

(Signed)
Jo Murray
senatorjacumin@bellsouth.net

There's also this editor's note: "Ms. Murray's emails are signed 'Jo Murray (Sen. Jacumin)'. As well as holding the office of Chair of the Caldwell County Republican Party, she works as an assistant and constituent liaison for Sen. Jacumin."

The context is Ms. Murray's unhappiness with the North Carolina Conservative's reporting on Congressman McHenry's possible involvement with more recent vote fraud. Never mind that the behavior Ms. Murray tolerated (condoned?) was and is a Class I felony. Never mind that the sanctity of the ballot box is what protects every other freedom and privilege we enjoy as citizens. The criminal was a Republican, and gol durn, the NCGOP comes first!

This is not a right/left or a Republican/Democratic thing. It needs to be said loud and clear by leaders in both parties and by regular joes like you and me that Ms. Murray's vision of party loyalty is a danger to the health of our democracy.

What can you do? You can email Senator Jacumin (Jimja@ncleg.net) and ask him whether Ms. Murry speaks for his office in this regard (she is his liaison, after all). You can also email the party chairs (Jerry Meek at jmeek@ncdp.org and NCGOP Interim Chairman Linda Daves at LCDaves@aol.com) and ask them whether loyalty to party should come before our responsibility to our communities and to our democracy. And, of course, you can email Ms. Murray at the address she provided and give her a chance to explain herself (but be nice, or else the place will be crawling with trolls).

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My email to Sen. Jacumin

Submitted by Lance on

Senator Jacumin,

Would you care to go on the record regarding the comments your liaison, Jo Murray, gave to the North Carolina Conservative condoning election fraud? The URL is provided below. In her letter to the NCC she identifies herself as the Caldwell County party Chair, and provides the email address senatorjacumin@bellsouth.net. It seems from her comments that she believes that election fraud is to be tolerated so long as it is committed by fellow Republicans. This is a gross distortion of the concept of party loyalty, and, if it were to come to represent the views of a substantial portion of NC's population, could be a threat to our legislative process. I would like to know where you stand on this.

The link to Ms. Murray's comments:

http://www.northcarolinaconservative.com/ index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1170936680&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

I'll let you know if I get a reply.

Joint email to Jerry and Linda Daves:

Submitted by Lance on

Mr. Meek and Ms. Daves,

The Caldwell County Chair from one of your parties recently had published a letter that expresses the idea that election fraud is tolerable and should be kept quiet as long as it is committed by someone who is in her own party. It seems obvious to me that this is a gross distortion of the value of party loyalty, and, if widely held, a threat to the democratic process that protects our liberties and privileges. It does not appear that this is obvious to everyone, however. I am writing to ask that each of you go on the record condemning the idea that party loyalty should come before the welfare of our community and respect for our laws.

The link to the County Chair's comments follows: (etc.)

Living Where you Vote?

Submitted by TurnNCblue on

Does Liddy Dole live in Salisbury?

TurnNCBlue

I actually checked on this

Submitted by Blue South on

Im still doing some research into actual property questions, however she is registered to vote in salisbury, and voted in a municipal election in 01 and I think every election since then.

I also checked, and even if she never sleeps at said home, if she is living in DC on government business and doesnt vote there then she is still a resident of the state for voting purposes.

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"Keep the Faith"

Nice catch, Lance

Submitted by Betsy Muse on



Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Same kind of thing happened with the Boylan campaign

Submitted by SPLib on

Pilot Article

The two voters, Kristen Reitler and Elizabeth Powell, both registered to vote in Moore County earlier this year, Reitler on Jan. 3 and Powell on March 14.

Reitler was Boylan's campaign manager. Powell was Reitler's assistant.

On their registrations, they gave the address of the Boylan Campaign as their mailing addresses.

This was investigated by the BOE

Submitted by Linda on

I don't have time to look up Boylan's reaction - but I believe he said that he said that he didn't know it was a felony, and besides, it didn't make a difference in the election any way. :/

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

Wasn't his reply something like...

Submitted by momoaizo on

It's really a shame that you caught this 'cause this could ruin these poor girls lives....

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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Here's what he said

Submitted by Linda on

"They came, they worked, they registered to vote," he said. "If they shouldn't, well, they were just a couple of kids out of college who are Republicans, trying to be good citizens."The Pilot

And

"It's unfortunate that people who want to attack me are trying to harm the lives of a couple of kids who are 22, 23 years old and have their whole lives ahead of them," Boylan said. The Pilot

However, I think they knew what they were doing. According to the same article, they gave Boylan's campaign headquarters address as their address. They lived in an apartment that the campaign paid for. I don't know if the comment I quoted above was something published, or if it was something he said in conversation after one of the appearances I attended.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

I think

Submitted by Blue South on

that if you are actually living in the place then it is fine. if the campaign staff moves to a district, and is renting an apartment within the district then they should be allowed to vote there.

to put your address as the campaign address is beyond absurd though.

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"Keep the Faith"

I'm not sure about that.

Submitted by Linda on

I think you ought to vote where your driver's license is - in other words, where your permanent address is. If you care enough about a place to have your driver's license changed to there, then I think you should be able to vote in the district. Just my quickly considered opinion on that.

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

The reason I disagree

Submitted by Blue South on

is plain old voter education.

If I spend 6 months working in place (6 times longer than the required length for voting), and I know everything there is to know about all the candidates I think I have MORE of a right to vote than random joe who isnt connected with a campaign, and registers to vote 2 months before the election.

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"Keep the Faith"

good point.

Submitted by Linda on

n/t

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

Five Times

Submitted by Unique on

I've read it five times (once in the original)and it still doesn't make good sense to me.

Is it her point that it's okay to overlook illegalities as long as their committed by your own party ?

Did this person just admit in a letter that they knowingly concealed an illegal act?

I'm baffled.

You're not alone

Submitted by Betsy Muse on

I had to read it through a couple of times too. What's a little crime among friends, right?

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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I'm having the same trouble.

Submitted by James on

I thought Lance might have run this through Babelfish:

Babel Fish Translation Help

I am the president of the county of the county of Caldwell and know for a fact that a person, the deceased, who lived as a new man in the county of Caldwell and if running moved for Raleigh many years has to pursue a business in campaigns and if it later had a work of the government of the state, now to vote in the county of the vigil. However, later that the congressional congressional race for the opponent of McHenry started to 10 district as a customer, he reregistered to still vote in the county of Caldwell to the life in the county of the vigil. We in the county of Caldwell knew on this them to me we were a republican and us we did not want "to say bad on one another republican". Now that it is the difference in this "history" and its allegations? I was a reader and a subscriber fidiciary offices of its paper and stimulated a local man to become involved with you paper. Now, I feel that I must reconsider my sustentation and faithfulness its paper. Jo Murray, President Of The Republican Of The County De Caldwell

It sounds like a tale of old

Submitted by Lance on

"And lo, there was a man of Warwickshire of humble descent who slayed five dragons and lived thereafter as a new man in the county of Caldwell."

It sounds like a tail of a young Patty

Submitted by MaxTheDog2 on

"And lo, there was a man of Raleigh of rich Pope descent who bang five snakes at GOP HQ on Hillbough Street and lived thereafter as a new partner in the county of Patty, who said screw the Sheriff since he ran against me."