Draft Easley?

I would do this as another forum, but instead just let me open up the floor for debate on this subject.

It's February 2007 and Mike Easley announces he is running for the U.S. Senate seat against Elizabeth Dole (who has also announced at this point).

What are your feelings?


I supported Mr. Mike

WAAAAAAY back . . . when he was running for AG. Years ago, he stood right in my backyard where Larry Kissell stood just two weeks ago, and we drummed up a good bit of money for him.

That said, I doubt I'd go so far as to sign on to a draft Easley movement. If he were 1000% personally motivated to take on the Wighead, I'd support him, though I haven't heard that rumor yet.

On the plus side, he's done a decent job as Governor, and practical minded North Carolinians would definitely see him as a strong alternative to Dull, who, frankly, could give a shit about North Carolina judging by all the time she spends trying to prop up her Lapdog friend in Montana.

The divide-and-conquer wingers will go after him long and hard for his sweetheart deal in Southport, but that shouldn't be fatal.

My preference would be to be represented by a much more dedicated environmentalist with a strong progressive streak. Which probably means I should be living in another state. I can see NC becoming staunchly green as citizens slowly come to the awareness that the natural environment is our number one asset. But becoming solidly progressive? That's going to take awhile.


PS One of our jobs between now and 'announcement time' is to shine the bright light on Dull's extreme incompetence and uselessness as anything besides a Bush lapdog. She is vulnerable for continuing to be a cheerleader for Bush's war. She is vulnerable on health care and Part D. She is vulnerable on driving up the deficit. And she is vulnerable for being MIA when it comes to NC issues - and when she does show up, she votes against the interests of her own constituents. Everytime the GOP sends her out to collect payola for candidates in other states, we need to be on her back like a swarm of hornets. Everytime we send her a request and get one of her bullshit form letters, we should spread the word for all to see.

The good news is, we don't even have to use hyperbole. Elizabeth Dole is preoccupied with her GOP duties. She is simply not focused on North Carolina and it shows.

I don't know 'bout old Mike

I would vote for him if he was running in the general but I'd like to see some good strong opposition in the primary. I'm feeling a bit gun shy. I loved Edwards and wish he were still Senator, but I do feel he stepped out of the job a little too soon (for us, not for him necessarily). I would love it if Roy Cooper would run. I think he could garner support statewide and I know he'd do a great job. Hampton Dellinger is running for AG in '08 - or at least he was planning to. I don't know if his plans will change now with Roy saying he's running again.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

What about Mel Watt?

I can't help but wonder if it wouldn't change the state turnout dynamics. Anyone have any insight?

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

I don't know...

I think someone with a better grasp of state-wide voting would have to answer whether Mel would change the dynamics of the overall vote. He would be an interesting addition to the equation.

Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Mike would be a good candidate but....

With Buzz & Biddy up there working against him, what chance would he have? He's a work in the background type of guy....we need someone that would be more "in yo face"!

You said what I was thinking.

Working in the background may be great for keeping the trains running, but voters these days seem more attracted to sizzle than substance. How else can you explain them casting ballots for Dull, Burr and Bush? For better or for worse, people want to be inspired and enrolled in vision - and they don't seem to mind when the vision is actually a delusion. Easley would really, really, really have to want it to stand a chance. I don't see that kind of hunger in his words and actions.

I'd vote for Mike

Over any prominent NC Republican who I can think of, but I'm not thrilled with his unwillingness to work with the new blood in the NCDP. He's going to need a change of heart there or a damn good explanation before I'll start Tom Cruising on my couch for Easley.

I like Mike, too.

Don't know if he could deal with the bs in DC, but if he thought he could do it for 12-18 years, I'd certainly give him my vote in 2008, even in a primary. Why? Lots of whys, lots of answers, but the reason I care most about these days is --

Easley would get the votes necessary to retire Dole so she could quit pretending to be a Senator from NC.

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Governor is quick to criticize Bush

While Governor Easley appears more moderate to conservative, he is very quick to criticize President Bush on numerous issues. Perhaps dealing with federal issues he would *seem* more progressive.

I am too lazy to research it now, but he has gone out of his way on more than one occasion to blast Bush. There was one around the time of the Pillowtex closing.

That's right.

In fact, I've been surprised how direct and forceful he's been in pushing back at King George on a number of fronts. Those instances really raised my estimation of Easley.

Roy Cooper

Ditto - lukewarm but not disappointed with an Easley nomination.

Id love to see Roy Cooper in the race. I'd work for him in a second.
But I'd also love to see him run for governor. So, Ill have to pick and choose huh?
To me, he is like an Appalachian Elliot Spitzer who is very down with the environment. His work on air pollution is MONUMENTAL, and to my knowledge unprecedented in southern politics. Particularly for a A.G.

Would/could John Edwards run again? What about Rerpresentative Brad Miller? Does he have the campaigning ability to be able to take it statewide? I am really impressed with what I've seen from him.

But Roy Cooper is, to me, choice #1.

Mike in '08, Roy in '10

I like Mike to retire Dull in 2008.
And I like Roy to retire Brrrr in 2010.

That would be 2 great NC senators. When is the last time we could say that?

the upside of this would be...

North Carolinians seeing that a Federal Democrat (Easley winning in 08) wasn't going to burn their bibles, outlaw their guns, or any of the other B.S. Which, might lead to us getting a second Dem in the Senate in '10.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

The war of 1812?

I kid, i kid.

Be just, and fear not.

Our children need to know that some people fought back, when others collaborated.


I'm not a huge fan of the Governor right now. His relucantness to work with the NCDP and many Democrats as a whole really rubs me the wrong way. However I'd be there everyday to help him beat Dole.

I seriously cannot wait to have the race against her start up. She's what people called Edwards, the Senator not from NC, except its bloody true. How can you explain the junior senator having better contsituent relations than you? She does such a diservice to the office of NC Senator, it makes me want to run against her.

Now Cooper would be a better idea imo. He's young and very talented as a statesman.
Be just, and fear not.

Our children need to know that some people fought back, when others collaborated.

The Buzz

Easly is going....fishing.

I hear McIntyre is thinking about running against Dole. Other names have bubbled, too, but not Easley. Dole is a rock star, and a woman, despite the fact she hasn't done much for the state (and rumor has it only half there). I hate Sue Myrick dropped out; I wanted to see an all female ballot. How about Dole vs. Elaine Marshall?

As for Roy, the word awhile ago was Cooper would hold off and then run against Burr. Besides, all the big donors are locked up by Moore and Perdue already. The question now is how much money do the Repubs put into his '08 AG race and who is their candidate? Bobby Crumley?

Going fishing for

flounder, no doubt.

This fits with what I've heard, 'cept for the Rock Star part . . . unless you mean she has rocks in her haid.


Cooper could take out the Brrrrrr for sure and if Roy gets tired of waiting for Bev Perdue's second term to wrap up, he could do worse than take on the Bush Lapdog. By then the failed Republican policies will be so painfully obvious that even Burr will have trouble running far enough away.

Wow. It's the former homo-bigot of the week.

Right here on BlueNC. I see you are taking your free-trade lessons off the Hong Kong market, which began the practice of ripping off likely-to-be-used site names and redirecting them. It puts you right up there with porno sites and webMDs trying to sell Viagra!

Great job! Once again proving the immorality of the far-right.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.

considering the choices....

I can't really think of a Democrat in NC with enough statewide popularity to take on Dole other than Easley, really. Hunt perhaps, but sounds like he's enjoying retirement. I love Elaine Marshall, but she doesn't quite have the name recognition out there. (Perhaps she could run against Burr next time.) Etheridge is possible, but I get the vibe he prefers the House anyway.

I like progressive candidates as much as anyone else here, but I'm also a pragmaticist....and Easley does seem the best chance I could think of for getting rid of Liddy.

A few things on Easley

1. He's still sitting on almost $1 million in his campaign fund--not sure if he can convert that into federal campaign funds or not since the dollars are raised under different regs.

2. He's definitely ramped up the Bush/Fed bashing in the last year.

3. He ran for Senate in 1990, but lost the primary to Harvey Gantt. Arguably was just doing it to build name recognition.

4. He could raise a fair amount of cash pretty quickly.

5. Despite all that, I don't see him running. Just doesn't seem to be his bag. Unfortunately, I don't see any major D's running against Dole, esp. those who essentially have guaranteed seats (Cooper, Marshall, etc). If Cooper waits until 2010, he has a much better chance of beating Burr, and if he loses he could theoretically remain as A.G. (depending on whether he had to step down to campaign full-time).