CJ Report: Hardball Live from Chapel Hill with Senator and Mrs. Edwards

First, there was a a lot of confusion about Robert's brown sweater, so I'm going to clear up that order of business, right now! ;) It really wasn't "brown" but light tan.

Now that we have “brown sweater” mystery cleared up…

As many of you already know, I’m an Edwards supporter, so I attend a lot of events in North Carolina where Senator or Mrs. Edwards will be appearing. In fact, I vlogged one of the campaign events Edwards did for Shuler and the event where Edwards stumped for Kissell. But, I hadn’t really planned on going to the Hardball event until I got a call letting me know that there were a few VIP tickets available for bloggers. VIP tickets for bloggers? Hmmm…that was something I thought I shouldn’t pass up, but reinforce with the Edwards’ camp that we, bloggers, are ready to take our place at the table.

We are seeing more and more of this type of blogger outreach from the Edwardses and not just because they have built a kick ass blog for their One America Committee. Both John and Elizabeth Edwards have held a number of private blogger meet and greets over the last year, Senator Edwards has liveblogged on DailyKos and Eizabeth Edwards often posts on blogs, including smaller blogs, like our own North Carolinian, courtnix. And, Elizabeth liveblogged right here on BlueNC! So, I went. And I wondered. I wondered if “the announcement” many of us are so anxiously awaiting would happen. I was pretty doubtful that it would, but when I first arrived to take my “special invite” seat and noticed that Senator Edwards’ parents were there, I really wondered…but as the seating filled up in our section, I realized that it was just wishful thinking on my part and with that, I relaxed to enjoy the show.

The set up began with the Hardball crew giving some instructions to the audience, one of which was that we could not take photos during the show. We’d already been told at the door, that we were not allowed to video any portion, likely because they didn’t want some blogger catching one of Matthews’ off the wall remarks on video for an advertisement free youtube viewing.

Now right to Matthews’ most obnoxious comment of the night, about "ball biting" which has been reported by The Raw Story with video from Crooks and Liars:

VIDEO: Chris Matthews pulls one of his unfiltered moments while talking to John and Elizabeth Edwards on Hardball—the College tour.




There were several serious moments though. Perhaps the most pertinent being John Edwards’ heavy hitting responses on Iraq.

'Hardball' not so hard for Edwards

Edwards said it was unacceptable for President Bush to delay making any changes in U.S. policy in Iraq until January.

"I think the war is a mess," Edwards said. "The Iraq study group makes that clear. ... There is a desperate need for a change in policy. It is amazing to me and totally unacceptable that the president of the United States, after having led us there and created this mess, along with the help of others, is not taking responsibility to change course."
Edwards said that the United States should have known better than to become involved in Iraq, referring to a centuries-old tribal war.

"The idea that we can fix this with military intervention is absolute nonsense," Edwards said. "The only solution is a political solution."
Edwards said he would withdraw 40,000 to 50,000 service members immediately, while shifting more responsibility to Iraqi authorities.

"The idea that we can fix this with military intervention is absolute nonsense," Edwards said. "The only solution is a political solution."
Edwards said he would withdraw 40,000 to 50,000 service members immediately, while shifting more responsibility to Iraqi authorities.




Perhaps the best “smackdown” moment was when Matthews baited the Edwardses to speculate on “what Kerry was thinking" with his flubbed joke about the troops and Elizabeth looked at Senator Edwards and said, “don’t even go there!” The crowd roared and Matthews looked a little stunned.

That’s not the only hardball Matthews had to field from the Edwardses! When Matthews poorly framed the problem with Unions being teamsters inviting workers to join, Edwards hit right back with his response,”I don't think we have a problem in America with big multinational corporations having their voices heard."

Senator Edwards has worked extensively to strengthen unions and his close ties with unions has led to a a lot speculation as to whether or not he will win the endorsement of big unions, should he choose to run for President. If he does, it will be a boost to an Edwards for President campaign, particularly in Nevada, whose primary was bumped up earlier in the process for the 2008 GE.

So, while Matthews posed some pretty ridiculous questions, I will give him this, he did dish up some serious criticism of Bush during the breaks, one of which was his question to the audience about what is lacking most from our current president. A few in the crowd offered up some responses but the one that Matthews grabbed on to and repeated was, “integrity.” This opened the door for Matthews to talk it about the supposed WMD prompting just the type of response from college crowd we’d expect, basically, LIES. Matthews told them, “you are learning.”



And… Matthews does seem to hold Elizabeth in high regard. So, hey, can he be all that bad? Ok, ok, maybe he can.







But, the Edwardses certainly held their own and Senator Edwards is looking more and more like a serious presidential contender as his remarks, which made Taegan Goddard's Quote of the Day," demonstrate.

"Running before makes you focus on something different. Instead of focusing on how crowds respond to you and what everybody seems to love of you. That's not the test for being president. The test for being president is are you the best person to occupy the Oval Office and be the leader of the free world? Because literally the future of the world is at stake here. This is not about popularity and excitement."








Senator and Mrs. Edwards look out on the chair they donated to the renovation of Memorial Hall, in their son, Wade Edwards', memory.

Comments

Great report.

Wish I had known bloggers were now officially VIPs! WOOT!

We are all working on it...

There are a few candidates and prospective candidates that are catching on.

And, when we have bloggers like SouthernDem really making a difference, as she did for the Kissell campaign and all of the other bloggers really workin' it, we'll eventually get there. And of course, awesome blogs, like BlueNC!

Up with the netroots!

Yes, me too.

I would definitely have gone, but I understood the only way to get tickets was to appear in person a day or two ahead and then the limit was two. That put those of us at the other end of the state at a disadvantage. Oh, well.

It was very last minute

I didn't know either, CG until the day of and I only noticed a few local bloggers there, those of us here in the Triangle. There will be many more opportunities!

Excuse us Mr. I was at the NCDP Christmas Party.

: )

Last night was fun. I got to meet JRE's Mom & Dad and they were about what you would expect - real nice. I grew up in a small town (600) where everyone worked blue collar jobs, so they are "my kind of people".

I thought John Edwards did a great job last night and I thought Chris Matthews was....off. The best response of the night was his "This is ridiculous, but go on" line. I'm actually getting sick of the ratings-driven news shows and their parlor tricks, so if there was a sense of frustration, I guess that is the same world I inhabit these days.

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Right on JRE's parents

I met them in 2004 and they are just as nice as you'd expect his parents to be. You can easily see how they raised such a nice son.

Very nice report !

Thanks !

Yes, NC Dem

very nice, as usual.

Thanks so much

Fantastic reporting, NCDem.

My neighborhood lost electrical power last night and I was unable to see the first half of the show. (You can imagine my frustration) ;)

This fills in many of "the blanks".

Thanks!

Jude

LOL!

I know it...brown? Maybe Robert's color blind like my husband is...;)

Male colors vs. Female colors

I know that sounds like something Chris Matthews would say, but here is the difference.
Men:
red
green
blue
brown
black
white

Women:
AliceBlue
AntiqueWhite
Aqua
Aquamarine
Azure
Beige
Bisque
Black
BlanchedAlmond
Blue
BlueViolet
Brown
BurlyWood
CadetBlue
Chartreuse
Chocolate
Coral
CornflowerBlue
Cornsilk
Crimson
Cyan
DarkBlue
DarkCyan
DarkGoldenRod
DarkGray
DarkGrey
DarkGreen
DarkKhaki
DarkMagenta
DarkOliveGreen
Darkorange
DarkOrchid
DarkRed
DarkSalmon
DarkSeaGreen
DarkSlateBlue
DarkSlateGray
DarkSlateGrey
DarkTurquoise
DarkViolet
DeepPink
DeepSkyBlue
DimGray
DimGrey
DodgerBlue
FireBrick
FloralWhite
ForestGreen
Fuchsia
Gainsboro
GhostWhite
Gold
GoldenRod
Gray
Grey
Green
GreenYellow
HoneyDew
HotPink
IndianRed
Indigo
Ivory
Khaki
Lavender
LavenderBlush
LawnGreen
LemonChiffon
LightBlue
LightCoral
LightCyan
LightGoldenRodYellow
LightGray
LightGrey
LightGreen
LightPink
LightSalmon
LightSeaGreen
LightSkyBlue
LightSlateGray
LightSlateGrey
LightSteelBlue
LightYellow
Lime
LimeGreen
Linen
Magenta
Maroon
MediumAquaMarine
MediumBlue
MediumOrchid
MediumPurple
MediumSeaGreen
MediumSlateBlue
MediumSpringGreen
MediumTurquoise
MediumVioletRed
MidnightBlue
MintCream
MistyRose
Moccasin
NavajoWhite
Navy
OldLace
Olive
OliveDrab
Orange
OrangeRed
Orchid
PaleGoldenRod
PaleGreen
PaleTurquoise
PaleVioletRed
PapayaWhip
PeachPuff
Peru
Pink
Plum
PowderBlue
Purple
Red
RosyBrown
RoyalBlue
SaddleBrown
Salmon
SandyBrown
SeaGreen
SeaShell
Sienna
Silver
SkyBlue
SlateBlue
SlateGray
SlateGrey
Snow
SpringGreen
SteelBlue
Tan
Teal
Thistle
Tomato
Turquoise
Violet
Wheat
White
WhiteSmoke
Yellow
YellowGreen

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

OK Robert... here's one for you. ;-)

I recently painted a room 'Catbird'. So, I'll let you figure out what color it is. ;-)

errrrr Calico?

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

It depends

If you look at it with daylight, it looks like a medium brown but under artificial light it's green. Either Martha Stewart or Ralph Lauren delighted me with that one. I am a possible fanatic regarding colors. Just ask my husband. God help him, he lost one of my paint swatches last week. It had taken me weeks to find it and on his way to the store he lost it. That probably entitles me to an extra nice Christmas present because I didn't actually eradicate him. ;-)

LOL!

RobertP, we'll be looking for you to git off that male fashion track and go metrosexual by sporting something in "thistle" next time we see you.

Forget 'prety in pink'.

Go for 'ex-thitin' in thistle'. (say that three times - fast).

Ummmm....Robert

if you show up wearing "thistle" I'm wearing a sequined athletic supporter and green goggles.

Stan Bozarth

Liberace coat

My son started taking piano lessons at four. That was What he wanted for his fourth birthday. Today he is a professional musician. Anyway, we took him to see a Liberace concert thinking that would be fun. (I know some may be saying who's Liberace). Anyway, the grand finale was him playing the piano and he stood to take a bow and his jacket lit up. We had a time convincing the four year old at recital time that he couldn't have a jacket that lit up. The child actually cried for one. Of course, it was funny too, but fustrating because he was serious about wanting one.

Cute Story

That is such a cute story. I started piano at 4 also, but never wanted a Liberace coat. I did want the candlesticks on the piano, though. I remember watching him on our b&w television. I mean...if you can remember Liberace, you can remember b&w teevees. :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Horrors!

That was in the day BEFORE DTV. ;-)

Do you remember 3 channels

and sailing with the pilot before watching the Heels play? See, this is how I will circle us back to being on topic. :) I guarantee you that John and Elizabeth Edwards remember sailing with the pilot before watching Heel's games on television years ago. Speaking of the Edwards family and tv....didn't they do a great job, the other night with Chris Matthews?

See...got us back safe and sound. :)

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Even worse.

Was the idea that you had to stand up and walk over to the TV to turn channels. That is why late night TV became so important, because whatever channel it was on when you went to sleep was what you would see when you woke up.

I also wonder if that isn't why the TV news was better. You only had three choices, so they didn't have to compete to be sexier than CSI reruns, just better at getting the news right.

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Totally forgot about the

lack of a remote. I remember my brothers and I had to take turns changing the channel. That UHF tuner was tricky.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

..or was it VHF?



Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

I was going to mention that child labor as well. : )

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Papaya whip

Now there's an interesting one.

Two questions for readers.

1. How does the future of the world relate now to post ww-II era? I would say the Cuban Missile Crisis rates as higher risk for chaos, but not any other time.

2. Has there ever been a three-way civil war in which the sides were so evenly matched and backed by outside forces?

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Tech question...

I just fixed a typo in the main entry and it seemed by submitting my edited version, it took it of the front page, it's that right?

TIA!

That's what happens

I'll put it back

Ok, thanks!

I'll just leave the other typos I have...and next time I'll be sure to preview more.

Excellent

This is just what I wanted to read.

The pictures are great. I think I pretty much agree with everyone that Matthews was off. It seemed Edwards was a bit put out - just the way it came off to me on TV, but I assumed it was because Matthews was being a bit too gossipy, maybe? Anyway, I thought the both John and Elizabeth Edwards did a great job handling Matthews.

I agree with the person who said somewhere that JRE is coming across as more presidential....not that he wasn't before, mind you. He was. I don't know, maybe I'm just imagining something I want to see.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

Thanks

"It seemed Edwards was a bit put out..."

John did look at Elizabeth at one point and say, "This is Hardball" and almost seemed to raise an eyebrow, lol, although that may have been just my interpretation. So, you probably did see something with that. Matthews can be so obnoxious!

It looked as if all were having a pretty good time

It looked to me like they were having fun. (Even if they weren't? Who knows? - LOL). Both Both Mr. and Mrs. Edwards did a great job of busting Chris' chops in a light-hearted way. Chris was his usual leprechaun-feisty self in return. So refreshing after all the nasty crap we've seen and heard on the tube lately.

Oh definitely!

The definitely seemed to be having a good time. Edwards was not rattled by Matthews' posturing and typical blowhard style---he didn't take it seriously, so perhaps that is the what is being read as 'put off.' It was more of a...'ya whatever dude' attitude, imo. LOL.

exactly.

That is exactly what I thought.
"Whatever, dude."
I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

I can't stand it

I'm watching the taping on my DVR. I guess I'll go ahead and burn a DVD so I can watch this whenever I want to.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Vote Democratic! The ass you save may be your own.

wow, Amy! Great report!

I really really hate I missed this last night but got your mssg late and couldn't leave work early yesterday.

Thank you so much for bringing us this. :)
(Argh! Still hate I missed it.)

"They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum Then they charged the people a dollar 'n a half just to see 'em. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Loved your report!

I was watching yesterday, but was interupted by someone (my son) every few minutes so It was hard to really get all the details. Thanks for your coverage,and weren't you the lucky one to get to cover it first hand. It is great that they think enough of the bloggers to be included.

I think they did well, and I really like the fact that John Edwards listened to Elizabeth when she said don't go there. They relly compliment each other so well.

Matthews.

A couple things. First, Matthews was rude to his staff (I don't believe it was a joke), made some funny jokes and some stupid ones, made one too many "women should stay at home and work" comments (perhaps why he was such a fan of Rick Santorum), and announced during a break that he voted for Bush in 2000 - "he really fooled me" or something to that effect.

I used to LOVE Chris Matthews, back in 2002/3, before I got sucked into blogging. Ever since 2004, he has seemed to me to drift farther and farther right.

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

unions

There are reports that UNITE-HERE in Nevada is an extension of the Edwards campaign.

Also, the recent news that he is adding Bonior (sp?) onto his team gives him even more credibility with the unions.

I think the big difference for Edwards with the unions from what Dean got in early 04 is that even though Dean got their endorsements it was because he was the frontrunner. Edwards is actually willing to stand up for unions and union members. That should be huge in some of these early states.

HelpLarry.com

"Keep the Faith"

For all of Dean's draw...

he was the son of a Park Avenue millionaire. John Edwards is the son of a UNION mill worker, who was a UNION worker during the summers. As someone who grew up in those conditions, you don't forget that sort of thing, and you are more...trusting, of someone who has lived it.
I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Who were the other 'bloggers?

Robert P., links for the other invitees?

I've been interested in Edward's choice in invites since Anton and Bora got the big snub (something since remediated).

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

I'm not sure it was actually blogger invites,

so much as activist/volunteer invites. Just happen to be both. IT would be kind of like Southern Dem getting an invite to Kissell being on Hardball.

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me

Well deserved Robert...

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

CitizenWill
there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. MLK,Jr. to SCLC Leadership Class

I thought it was busted...

but that might just be what I expected to hear.

I know that every good and excellent thing in the world stands moment by moment on the razor-edge of danger and must be fought for. ~ Thornton Wilder

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.
-me