Best No OLF Article I've Seen

If you had told me I would find the best description of the battle between the Navy and Washington Co. farmers at the Southeast Farm Press, I'm sure I would have told you that you're crazy. But, there it is:

More than three years ago the U.S. Navy proposed building a touch and go landing strip, or offsite landing field, for its F18 Super Hornet squadrons operating out of Navy Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach, Va., and Marine Corps Air Station, in Cherry Point, N.C.,

What the Navy got was a snarling wolf, which they find themselves holding firmly by the ears — weary of holding on, but unwilling to let go.

I love the comparison of the farmers to a snarling wolf.

The author of the article does a pretty good job of summing up the struggle between North Carolina citizens and the U.S. Navy. He even includes facts I don't recall seeing before. Take this tidbit from our Agriculture Commissioner, Steve Troxler:

Saving the farm seems to be the most vocal of the many groups opposing the OLF at Site C in North Carolina. North Carolina Agriculture Commissioner Steve Troxler contends the Navy landing site would cost the agricultural industry in the region over $6 million per year.

Troxler says, “My appreciation of what the men and women of our armed forces do for our country doesn’t change the fact that North Carolina has lost over 300,000 acres of farmland since 2003 and we’ve lost the most farmland of any state in the country for the past two years.”

The article's author, Roy Roberson, touches on the impact to the price of land, the ability to provide products used for alternative fuels and the grain shortage already affecting the pork industry.

Finally, he gets to the point that so many in the corporate press let slide. The power and greed of Virginia legislators.

For their part the wolf is not backing down. The NO OLF Committee, chaired by Jennifer Alligood, has vowed to continue the fight. While some residents believe deep down that the Navy will win the right to build the OLF at Site C, regardless of the political entanglements, Alligood is not one of those people.

She believes in the long run the people will win and the farming community will continue as it has for hundreds of years.

In the interim politicians, business leaders, and concerned citizens up and down North Carolina’s east coast have become interested participants in the political chess match that pits powerful Virginia legislators on one side — they hope to keep most of the revenue from the Super Hornet squadrons in Virginia, but hope to deal many of the environmental problems off to rural North Carolina.

Please go read the entire piece and send Roy Roberson from the Southeast Farm Press some love.

Update: Parmea reminds us to keep sending our comments to the Navy in the form of questions. Please go here to ask the Navy your OLF questions about the draft SEIS.

Comments

Thank you so much.

This is excellent. And irony of ironies . . . there are also red wolves in the Site C area, which are protected from being disturbed by federal law.

This monstrosity is not dead and we cannot let up now. It will be like a horror movie for the rest of this entire year, with the grotesque hands of the Navy reaching out again and again to try their grab for land.

Thank you for posting this.

I realize we have all the best info right here at BlueNC

however, we have so much it is almost overwhelming. I thoroughly enjoyed reading this article. It's also nice to know that folks out there are still beating the drum.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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They did what at Blue NC Jack?

I realize we have all the best info right here at BlueNC

however, we have so much it is almost overwhelming. I thoroughly enjoyed reading this article. It's also nice to know that folks out there are still beating the drum.*The Southern Dem

You are doing great! When you have the N&O and Jack Hawke Pope attacking you yesterday. You got the Bastards on the run big time.....Pour it on!!!!!!

Hawke

Jack Hawke has become a sad joke over the years - a parody of a conservative working for chickenfeed to do the Puppetmaster's bidding. Bob Orr's heading down that same trail, which is sadder still.

What? there is more information out there?

say it aint so!

Guess I will have to start reading these documents... Me thinks me shall go all the way back to the DEIS of 2002? Naaaaa, thats so boring. EWWWWW, I will read the ambient noise study for the 5 counties, now thats entertaining stuff there!

We have not reached overwhelming yet?? FULLSPEED ahead, we have to get to ludicrious information load!

BTW, May 9 is fast approaching. Get those public comments in! Ask questions, make the Navy work....No free ride comments. Dig folks DIG!

Parmea...you have the link for the public comments handy?

I'll put it up in the body of the piece so folks don't miss it and I'll remind them to make their comments in the form of a question so the navy is forced to answer. I didn't think about linking to the public comments. Sorry.

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The link for public comments

I have this favorited. In fact just sent in three more pages of comments to the wonderful folks.

Navy public comments web page. use it, abuse it, make them write bad checks!

woe unto the politician who is supporting this OLF

at Washington/Beaufort County site or anywhere else.

Keeping the OLF at Site C, almost exactly halfway between Cherry Point and Oceana would keep some politicians in both states happy.

What politician would say yes to this thing now?

Excellent article. Makes my job much easier! dont have to write much, it says it all.

What was that mythical dog with the multiple heads? We are that animal. Federal politicans are opposed to it in one head, State politicians are opposed to it for the second head, local politicians in the third head and the local populations are the body of this wolf with enough fortitude to allow any and all these heads to strike at the Navy at will, now!

Navy, you have a chance to release the wolf and not get torn to shreads. My suggestion is to do just that and climb back over the fence to the safety of Virginia where you have sheep working with you.

Navy, you really dont want our bite, heed our barks!

Ya mean this one?

YEA!!!! only need one

where he is eating someone and we can label it NAVY!

Thats what the Navy thought in 2002....

Cerberus, the Hell-hound

guarded the gates of the Underworld....

Cerberus had teeth of a razor's sharpness, three heads, a venomous snake for a tail and for good measure another swarm of snakes growing out of his back. Cerberus was standing guard to the gate of the kingdom, Hades, and he would not prevent anyone to enter the realm of the dead, but he will tear into pieces anyone who dare to exit.


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No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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That looks more like the Navy folks



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Ya know...it really does

perhaps the NO OLF people are more like Hercules, dragging it out of Hell!

No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

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I always loved living in eastern NC

but it wasn't until we were going to have it all taken away did I appreciate its magnificance.

Yesterday evening I spotted a Scarlett Tanager. It returns to my yard every year, it stood next to a dove, robins, black birds, while flying overhead and landing on branches were swallows, finches, waxwings, warblers, hawks and many more. The air was filled with the music of these creatures. They are building nests, taking care of their babies at total peace and security while carving out an existence in a very fragile and tough world.

As a silent witness to these earthly miracles, it reaffirmed that fact that as conscious human beings, it is our duty to protect and nurture all of life.

Thank you everyone for helping us to save this region. This region belongs to our state/country, and hopefully will always remain a safe haven for our children and wildlife.

Here is excerpt from another good article

from the Smokey Mountain News by Don Hendershot, The Naturalist's Corner - Waynesville, NC
http://www.smokymountainnews.com/issues/04_07/04_25_07/out_naturalist.html

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But the Navy has done its homework and has come up with the top 10 reasons to site an OLF in Washington and Beaufort counties.

• Reason number 10: Birds don’t vote — it is easier to cut off food supplies, harass and poison birds than voters.

• Reason number 9: Noise pollution — the noise from practice landings at Fentress OLF in upscale Chesapeake County, Va., makes it hard for lobbyists to be heard over the rattle of ice cubes in their cocktails.

• Reason number 8: Environmental concerns — between 30,000 and 40,000 people visit Pocosin NWR annually, the construction of an OLF with its increased noise pollution and the necessary removal of a significant portion of the waterfowl would likely result in a corresponding decrease in the number of visitors thus lessening the impact of the human footprint at the refuge and decreasing vehicle emissions.

• Reason number 7: Reduce the number of dangerous predators — black bear and the endangered red wolf are known to inhabit Pocosin, the jets would likely drive them away.

• Reason number 6: The need to stimulate creative thinking in the Navy’s rank and file — “Now we have to reverse engineer the whole process to justify the outcome,” reads an email from John Robusto, the Navy’s principal expert on operational matters regarding site C.

• Reason number 5: “... distance from public interest areas, and distance from wetland complexes,” from the U.S. Atlantic Fleet Public Affairs — a little over 3 miles from Pocosin Lakes.

• Reason number 4: Stupid farmers — by usurping 30,000 acres of farmlands around site C, the Navy could then dictate what farmers could or could not plant and get away from that outdated free market freedom of choice paradigm.

• Reason number 3: National security — “This OLF is very important to fleet readiness. The War on Terrorism and the way we will prepare and deploy carrier strike groups in the future demand that we maintain a much larger portion of the fleet in a surge-ready status,” said Admiral Natter.

“The existing airfields at Oceana, Cherry Point and Fentress don’t provide adequate capacity to do that in a way that is safe, responsive and sustainable. An additional OLF is essential to our ability to train our aircrews and surge our forces when directed by the Commander-in-Chief,” according to the U.S. Atlantic Fleet Public Affairs office.

“When the Navy performed Summer Pulse 2004, it tested the FRP [Fleet Response Plan] and the Navy claims it got 7 carriers deployed in the 30 days, one carrier over the required. No second OLF was needed for that in 2004. 2004 still had the F-14 in the inventory, more planes/squadron, etc. and yet was able to perform the plan,” according to the Albemarle Community Network

• Reason number 2: “... the Navy further concluded that the optimal location for the OLF was at Site C, which is fifty nautical miles from Cherry Point and seventy-two nautical miles from Oceana. The Navy chose Site C because it was roughly in between the two bases ...” from United States Court of Appeals — well they got us there, it actually is and you know how long it takes jets to travel 70 miles or so.

• Reason number 1: Because they want to — ?

Oh, this is wonderful



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excellent piece

loved comments 1 and 6, well, heck I liked em all. To bad these things are true in the eyes of the Navy. Why must an organization that relies on the inputs of the moms and dads of this region insist on showing this much contempt towards us.

Dont they know they need us?

The ppl @ SEFP

have been great from the beginning. When we first began this battle, I hit them up for an article. One of their reporters came out & rode w/ some of our farmers & learned the issues.

I agree w/ Susan that this region is so precious. How many other places can you sit in a tractor & ride & see land stretched out for acres? You will probably see a Bald Eagle by the end of the day. Watch a few bears come out of the woods......see the deer with their young. It is a place unspoiled by the perils we know in the city.

I hope our elected officials allow it to stay that way.

Dayna,

The most encouraging aspect is that so many Americans want North Carolina to remain beautiful.

We are fortunate that the folks reared and raised in North Carolina can remember their roots and want to preserve them. Let alone the folks who have moved to the area because it is just the opposite of everything they have had to deal with their entire lives.

In NJ my cousins spend one hour in the car to travel 13 miles. When they come to visit they trip out over a butterfly, their children cannot believe we can actually touch bull frogs or turtles, and the fascination over a snake is incredible. They go to zoos or museums to see what we live with on a daily basis.

eloquent

truely beautiful comments.

The navy needs to actually come to our communities and see what we have to offer, vice what they think they can steal.

I would love

for all of them to come and bring their children.

I sense a BlueNC reunion

in Washington County brewing. Hmmmmmm. :) I want to have my picture taken smack dab in the middle of what will NEVER be the site C OLF.

Robin Hayes lied. Nobody died, but thousands of folks lost their jobs.



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Wouldn't that be wonderful?

n/t

PHOTO OPS!!!!!

with a zillion birds in the back ground would be poetic justice!

And I think the record of decision would come out in late nov/dec time frame. 3 weeks to set it up, and we would be in prime bird season. Only it will be COLD!

A picture with a fair representation of the State of North Carolina as one enjoying a beautiful place. Would really be nice to be warmed up on a bonfire of all the NO OLF parafilnaia goes up in smoke!

Let Me Help!

A picture with a fair representation of the State of North Carolina as one enjoying a beautiful place. Would really be nice to be warmed up on a bonfire of all the NO OLF parafilnaia goes up in smoke!

I would love to be part of a party like that. Let's Do It.

You know, Southern Dem

I think I can get you pretty damn close to (what the Navy used to refer to as) Site C for a photo. ;)

But after yesterday's actions...............I wonder, what will happen to the acres of land the Navy has already purchased & condemned??

Unfortunately, once Site C is safe, we'll probably have to move

the NO OLF signs and other stuff to one of the other proposed sites.
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My darling girl, when will you understand that 'normal' isn't necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage." - Alice Hoffman, Practical Magic

I hope & pray not.

It is *not* NC's fault that VA can't control themselves.

Let VA eat what they have created.

The Navy Ashore Vision 2030 report shows NO FA 18 E/Fs at Cherry Point. NONE. ZERO. ZILCHO.

Makes it look like as soon as the Navy and Virginia get their

landing strip, they'll yank the jets from Cherry Point.

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It has already happened to Cherry Point

in the 1990s.

They were promised jets. The City of Havelock completely updated their infrastructure to handle the extra people coming to the city with the jets. Then *poof* Senator Warner had the jets moved to Oceana.

Why don't they think (read: know) that this will happen again? The Navy even gave them a report so they could see it will!!

That is why I have been stressing

all sites and not just one. However, with the site C jugernaught the fall out for this applies to the other 4 sites, so long as our elected officials realize this.

As Lt. Gov. Perdue has mentioned, this OLF should not go anywhere the people do not wish it.

The Navy has had to regroup and figure out a diffrent strategy and a diffrent tact. the Navy has stated in order to justify this selection that the other 4 sites are not good and are worse then the prefered site. thus if the prefered site is bad, and the navy proved that the other 4 sites where worse then bad, then how can they come back and say OOOOO, this site really is good, and is now better then site C...I know, pie in the sky thinking, but 3 years ago, if someone said that site C would not be selected, they would have been told that is pie in the sky thinking. Its happened once, its going to happen again..

The Pie is falling the Pie is falling from the sky! Sure hope its gooseberry pie!

Keep This in Mind -

"If the preferred site is bad, then navy proved that the other 4 sites were worse than bad."

Yep. Worse than bad. What a shame that is. {not}