TTA Deal Struck For Regional Rail

The TTA has just reached an agreement with Norfolk Southern that ensures that they have access to all 28 miles needed to complete the proposed Triangle Regional Rail Line:

The agreements with Norfolk Southern gives the TTA access to the corridors necessary to build the 28-mile rail transit system, which is schedule to have 12 stations connecting Durham, Research Triangle Park, Cary and Raleigh.

TTA General Manager John Claflin called the agreements with Norfolk Southern "a major milestone for the TTA," emphasizing that talks over access to the rail corridors have been ongoing for more than two years.

Now that the private sector and the agency have found agreement, we just need the federal government to kick in to complete the project.


I think I've mentioned before

that Charlotte is working on light rail to connect parts of Charlotte and there is talk of regional rail. Nothing will come out this way and this area contributes a tremendous amount financially. We still haven't figured out why we are completely discounted...

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I've heard some commentary

on that big radio station out of Charlotte that's near 99 on the FM. They absolutely despise commuter rail, like it's some kind of communist plot to destroy Charlotte. I'm not sure why. They assume everyone listening agrees with them and never explain it.

If it costs money they don't like it...

If it doesn't go where they think it should go they don't like it...
If it takes longer to finish than proposed they don't like it...

Are you seeing the pattern?

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framing the debate

One reason that people are so successful at attacking the costs of the train is that they frame debate around whether the costs will be made up by projections for immediate ridership. The same logic isn't used when building roads. Its just that opponents of public transportation have become very good at making these projects seem like a huge waste.

Not going to help much...

Futzing with the train corridors will cost more than its worth. They should've been working on purchasing distinct corridors. Now TTA will screw around with the tracks instead of moving forward with the much more economical BRT.

Where is the money to buy corridors?

Part of the problem is that TTA has to do this on shoestring budgets because of the cheap public officials. As this comment points out, you sometimes need to invest more to get better returns.

That being said, I believe that once the rail is a reality, there will be momentum to improve the system and even expand it. What we need is a start. Not everyone will approve of all the decisions made, and all the decisions might not be right. But there is such a need for public transportation in the area that need to get this ball rolling soon or risk being in more of a transportation crisis.

Any plan will meet with resistance

That's the nature of the beast. In Charlotte the initial fight was over where it would go. Several different distinct areas were fighting over it. Now, the project is over budget - time and money - with the increase cost of gas, etc being blamed and people are fussing over the transit station ruining the neighborhood. The griping seems to be constant, but TG you're right - once it is up and running it will gain momentum. There will always be detractors, but we are way behind when it comes to meeting our public transportation needs. Charlotte always seems to meeting needs after the need has become critical and never planning ahead.

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I am so sick of North Carolina being

the state where everything is mediocre.

The state where everyone is okay that we have A rail system, even if it sucks.

Just for once, I would like our legislators to make North Carolina the leader of the pack. A good TTA system that got people out of their cars could be a model for the rest of the country. Instead, we're a jes gonna be dem good ole' boys wid dat diesel injen chugin long. Yuck yuck.

I blame all of our local Representatives (Triangle-wide; local, state, and federal) for not finding a way to make Carolina a leader in this field.

Jesus Swept ticked me off. Too short. I loved the characters and then POOF it was over.


This is why SD doesn't like the word "competence." She's (rightly so) more interested in excellence. I fear we're so far from excellence that to speak the word in association with our state government would fail the test of sanity.

I guess you're right A

Competence to me implies..."just good enough" even if it isn't what the word means.

I love that line in The Incredibles...'bout finding ways to celebrate mediocrity. Great line. I'll have to watch the movie again to give you an exact quote.

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Just make sure it goes somewhere!

They have a light rail system here in Dallas that in effect doesnt go anywhere that people want to go. So now theyre finally going to expand it. DMN article from today as a matter of fact proposing up to $3.2 billion in new spending

I would use the rail if it was actually convenient and went to where I work. I live in North Dallas and work up here also and the rails currently only hit the east, south and central parts of the city and through downtown and connect to a rail that goes to Ft Worth. Living in this part of the city forces everyone to drive.

So make sure TTA actually places these new lines where people actually want to go!

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From Deep In The Heart Of Texas

If only we had some density.

The folks around here like the idea of transit a lot, but when it comes to the density needed to make it workable, they often balk. Density, they say, should always be "somewhere else." It's going to be a long time before this pays off . . . but I'm glad to see at least a little progress.